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Rational Response Squad
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[edit] The Rational Response Squad
The Rational Response Squad are a group of sad short-dicked evangelical atheists whose only goal is to spout inane atheist propaganda in a desperate attempt to provoke religious people into an extreme rage and thus validate their fragile egos. Ironically, their extreme hatred towards people who believe in God is very irrational, most of it being a fairly clear expression of a desperate need for validation through rabidly hypocritical behavior. Also ironically, in their quest to "disprove" God, they have become moar dogmatic in their belief system than ANY priest, imam, or rabbi EVAR, proving that although the RRS have ALL the answers regarding God, they still need the comfort and shelter of a religion (Atheism).
The RRS claim to have "rich and powerful" financial backers (Paypal and Brian's mom) that have enabled them to live in a house together where they constantly wear their own RRS-branded t-shirts and spend 24 hours a day on Stickam and YouTube "speading the word about atheism." While this is typical of cult behavior, it is currently unknown whether or not the group is harvesting firearms. Will hopefully go out in style.
Despite having “rich and powerful financial backers” Brian Sapient claims to only make $5,000/year. They presently use ChipIn and managed to con members into donating $560 as of November 2007. Presently they are advertising on Google Ads but keeping the details secret. “…We are worried about sabotage from the fine folks who would like us to remain silent.” However actively targeting Christian sites makes such security moot.
![Kelly's Tits and their featured model cock-teasing their younger members[1]](/Image:RRS-lessbo-kelly.jpg)
Using Google Ads, the RRS expects to attract “highly intelligent people as well from varying areas from psychology, biology, evolution, cosmology, physics, and more.” But anyone with a basic background in history understands their ultimate goal of classifying all religious belief as a mental disorder has been tried by other totalitarian states and has led to huge violations of human rights. They presently only attract idiots to susceptible to the mob mentality, and always will.
[edit] Internet Media Whores
Like all good wannabe internet media whores RRS created an advertisement on Wikipedia which was promptly deleted only to be reinstated three months later after a dedicated campaign and sexual favors produced a passing mention in a Newsweek article and one mention in a Fox News blog.
One Wikipedian, a college friend of Brian Sapient and former member, stated that "the RRS is blatantly biased, and incapable of understanding this bias by lacking the ability to discern between fact and opinion. It is a feat, to say the least, that this group is more criticized among atheists and "freethinkers," (including me) than among the religious themselves[5]."
The RRS actively targets “young people” to perform acts which create controversy and raise awareness on their behalf. The most famous is The Blasphemy Challenge. [6] Lesser known was their poorly conceived idea Burning Burqa Challenge. Core member Kelly's Tits expressed willingness to take the challenge but was discouraged by Brian’s fear of retaliation and the idea of having sex with her severed head. Such a good example of their cultural intolerance, and disregard to the safety of their followers, they have since removed their videos related to the Burqa Challenge.
[edit] FreethinkingTeens - for 30 something pervs
![Fyre86/Nikki86[2] These fridge magnets were sold after she turned 18. Yay! -](/Image:Freethinkingteens-Nikki-Frye86.jpg)
You have to wonder about thirty-something adolescents shaping young minds. According to Rayven Alandria [10] Brian Sapient bought then 17 year old Nikki/Fyre86 a web-cam in exchange for her masturbating in their Stickam channel[11] sometime before February 2007[12]. But according to her MySpace [13] and YouTube [14] profiles she’s 20, born April 17th, 1988. So anyone who bought a Freethinkingteens refrigerator magnet, the odds are damn good that Nikki’s tits were 18 at the time. According to sources, she loves lube.[15]
No one to date has backed up Rayven Alandria’s story. But there is every reason to believe if you are 18 and have nice tits, you might be selected to show off your goodies for Freethinkingteens.com and RationalResponders.com and might get a free webcam to boot. There is no evidence to support the claim that they are anything but regular internet pervs. Nikki now spends her time not in school helping Rook, Sapient, and Tomcat with the newest project, the RRS Academy where they CLAIM to teach college level courses, just without those pesky degrees or letters after their names. Don't bother with anything like MIT's free online course-ware,[16]RRS classes are taught by real Jesus Mythicist.
[edit] Legal threats - Sopoena[sic] Google for the IP addresses
Do you remember being a child in a school yard? You were butthurt over dropping your lollipop and proudly shouted, "I'm going to sue your mom." Do you remember growing out of that phase? Rook Hawkins doesn't. Recently on Rantsnraves.com there is a thread spoofing Rook[17]. Rook took some tips from Sapient's book How To Threaten Lawsuits and Get Your Way, and e-mailed the administrator. Rook claims some experience: "I'm sure you are aware that if this goes were not to be handled appropriately, and I took this to court and had to sopoena[sic] Google for the IP addresses (and discovered that they were different)."[18]. A vote was taken to address the seriousness of Rooks "legal" claim[19]. Presently 92.86% vote to call Rook's bluff, about the percent of lawyers to users on Rantsnraves. Brian Sapient[20] and Matt Shizzle[21] have been spoofed.
It's reported that the posters are behind 7 Proxies and it would take lots of luck and a Google Sopoena[sic] to catch them. Also while lawyers as a rule can't spell subpoena, an "expert" in mythology who can't spell subpoena[22] is an epic fail.
[edit] Financial – The RRS is freedom from getting a damn job
The RRS claimed to be on the verge of filing for non-profit status, and in the mean time, anyone wishing to donate more than $1,000 e-mail Sapient for instructions on how to subvert the IRS by donating to a charity which would give them money. However in April 2007 an “anonymous investor” helped Sapient buy a $340,000 house. Had he filed as a non-profit, he wouldn’t enjoy the benefits of such a generous gift. His new claim is he wants to remain anonymous so Christians won’t go after him, but it’s more likely he wants to avoid transparent accounting associated with a non-profit organization.
The RRS generates income in the following ways:
- Subscriptions Bronze - $3, Silver - $10, Gold - $25 monthly
- T-shirt & Media sales
- Referrals – Google ads, Amazon, Evolve Fish
- General donations
- Pooled donations Hosting/Server & Advertising
- Subverted funds through legit non profit organizations
- Room Rental
Sapient claims donations over $1,000 can be processed though a non-profit organization who “will use the money to pay their portion of the server fees.” The Freethought Society of Greater Philadelphia[23] has been informed of their vile attempt to deceive the public and the IRS reportedly has no such arrangement with the RRS. It's presently unknown what sucker will co-operate with Sapient's questionable business practices.
- It's rumored Sapient as NO fear of the IRS
- They freely admit to embezzling funds
Presuming they only had 200 subscribers at the bronze level, 1% of the number of members they claim to have, that would be $7,200. Their hosting expenses have increased from $75/year to presently $1,300/year to handle a message board that has an average of 120 messages a day. Even taking the cost of the server, claimed to be $2,600, that still leaves $3,300 to spare. Sapient estimated the site pulled in $55,000, roughly 10% of the Freedom From Religion Foundation's[24] gross.
NONE OF THEIR SUBSCRIPTIONS GO TOWARD HOSTING THEIR WEBSITE
Instead Sapient wants an extra $11,600 for a site that gets an average of 120 messages/day. This will cover another server costing $3,000, another host costing another $800/month. Why? Kelly's Tits explains, “You are making such a fuss about the money when it's clear that we don't make enough for me or Rook to stop working and for Brian to not take money out of his personal savings.” So by their own admission they want to quit their day jobs and be full time activists.
While "an anonymous investor" shelled out $204,000 for the $340,000 house, Sapient owns a 39% share of the house dedicated for the RRS enterprise. A 1% share was sold to Rook Hawkin's bimbo, one Lori K9sByte[25]. It's not an issue of standards, she's just clinically brain dead, see photo[26].
Kelly's Tits offers her opinion on those who question the organization's finical management:
- Sapient whines about getting $17,000 out of savings, when an anonymous investor shelled out $204,000 for his fucking house.
- The RRS wants YOU to pay their way through life, plus an extra $11,600 to support their hobby.
- They want both the benefits of a non profit & a commercial business. I.E. free labor and all the bucks in their pocket.
- Their supporters are such morons they don't know they are funding a poor business plan.
[edit] Fun Facts
- They like to brag to Wikipedia that "Their site has climbed heavily (up 4M) on the Alexa rankings since the original AfD"'. In fact, an improving Alexa rank to 170,000 means the ranking has gone from abysmal to merely awful. Still not a decent ranking.
- Like to claim that there is "Scientific Proof" that over 50 theists have become atheists because of the Rational Response Squad. Which proves how little they understand science and the controlled studies required to make such a claim scientifically, when in fact there is simply the sort of anecdotal evidence that claims to prove that homeopathy works.
- Claimed to sue Uri Geller when he falsely DMCA'd one of their YouTube videos, when in fact they probably just filed a standard counter notice.
- They are known to aggressively patrol their Blasphemy Challenge entries on YouTube and give negative comment points to anyone that disagrees with them. Obviously, an excellent source to troll. Also, dongz.
[edit] Prominent Rational Response Squad Members
Brian Sapient
- Megalomaniacal leader of the RRS.
- Is the RRS expert in philosophy. His qualifications include high school and cellphone sales.
- Has a persecution complex and an ego the size of Montana.
- Exhibits such delusions of grandeur he considers him self to be the Antichrist.
- Claims to have an I.Q. of 158[27] yet somehow thinks he can rid the world of religion and magicians.
- Is almost entirely supported by Kelly's Tits, father to one child. He admits to embezzling funds from the RRS to survive and presumably support his child.
kellym78
- Is the science consultant. Unlike other RRS Kelly's Tits actually went to college, but dropped out and has no real credentials, and in fact if she went back to school she would get a degree in psychology and philosophy.
- Was employed as a stripper at "Bada-Bing!" specializing in lap dances.
- Sapient's current concubine.
- Has three kids, (with Brian?) but is most proud of her fake tits; "the babies I love the most".
- It is arguable that Brian Sapient is an atheist so he can enjoy a tit-fuck guilt-free.
- Is apparently ashamed of her God given body, since she no longer acknowledges having made tit-fuck porn.
- According to Brian Sapient "was so in love with Jesus that she read three separate versions of the Bible in full, was looked at by her pastor as a star and by the people in her church as a heroic figure".
- Is so self absorbed she spends her time seeing how many losers Google her tits.
| —Brian Sapient, being rational and tolerant and forgetting he is a huge Christopher Hitchens fanboi |
!["Rook being pwnd by atheismsucks[3]"](/Image:Atheism-sucks-RookMythicistBanner1.jpg)
Rook Hawkins
- Nerdy high school taught self proclaimed ancient texts historian specializing in The Damn Bible. Knows precisely how many Jews were killed in The Bible, as well as why God actually hates Jews, Fags, and You.
- According to Brian Sapient "..was studying to be a pastor, and after seeing the light from the sun shining on a sign at school, thought that God was calling him". Given he was STUDYING to be a pastor 6 years ago, and he's now 24, obviously his studies are limited to the high school level.
- Likes to debate biblical history with his high school background with people actually fluent in Latin, Koine Greek, Syriac-Aramaic despite only being semi-literate in English.
- Has NO ability to do original research, so at best he's a commentator. He bases his facts purely on 19th century freethinkers[28]. Has possibly plagiarised[29] the work of Dennis McKinsey[30] and posted it on atheistnetwork[31]. Later claimed to be a completion not plagiarism, it still lacks adequate acknowledgment except "Thanks to Dennis McKinsey (who let me steal his work and make me look like a real historian).
- Retreats back to his tree house cult and claims victory when real academics no longer can stand his 24 year old temper tantrums.
- Claims to have a 5 digit income, the only core RRS member to do so. WOW!
- Believes that it is necessary for mankind to study the past, to avoid making the same mistakes. If Hitler had not invaded Russia, for example, the glorious Third Reich might still be around today! Link
| —Rook's latest abomination of the English language |
Funny how all three have symptoms exhibiting "Grandiose Delusional Disorder"; they probably have some a chemical imbalance which would explain their cult membership and megalomania.
[edit] Less than Prominent Rational Response Squad Members
Jake
- Is their holy prophet they pray to[32].
- It's claimed by the RRS that prayers to Jake, "return a 51% better response rate then to any god! Guaranteed(sic)!"
- These stupid fuckers stole that bit from a George Carlin routine in which he claims to pray to Joe Pesci with a 50% success rate.
Mike(Yellow#5)
- Is responsible for opening suspicious packages, showing us once again Brian's disregard for member's safety. [33]
Greydon Square
- Is the edgy hip-hop rapper who was duped into doing the music for the RRS based on the lie they had 20,000 members.
- Is a self proclaimed 'black' Sagan yet only attends Mesa Community College[34]
- Is the only member confirmed to have firearms.
- Once kicked the shit out of Brian Sapient (see below)
It's not known if their lesser members actually have jobs.
[edit] Insignificant Douchebags
Lori K9sByte
- Shares a bed with Rook, and was stupid enough to invest $3,400 in Sapient's freedom from work enterprise.
- Was put in charge of Shipping Greydon Square CDs, but didn't bother.
- Tried to make some porn with Rook[35] but his penis was too small.
Matt Shizzle
- Has a BA in Psychology from Lulztown PA
- Is a superfan and idiot troll.
[edit] Youtube Drama - "Theism is a Mental Disorder"
Recently, the RRS posted a video to promote their long-standing campaign to to have Theists categorized as having a "Grandiose Delusional Disorder" (Changing scientific definitions to promote your own agenda? Now where have I heard that before?) added to the DSM (The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders) based on 16 points:
- The patient expresses an idea or belief with unusual persistence or force.
- That idea appears to exert an undue influence on his or her life, and the way of life is altered to an inexplicable extent.
- Despite his profound conviction, there is often a quality of secretiveness or suspicion when the patient is questioned about it.
- The individual tends to be humorless and oversensitive, especially about the belief.
- There is a quality of centrality; no matter how unlikely it is that these strange things are happening to him, the patient accepts them relatively unquestioningly.
- An attempt to contradict the belief is likely to arouse an inappropriately strong emotional reaction, often with irritability and hostility.
- The belief is, at the least, unlikely.
- The patient is emotionally over-invested in the idea and overwhelms other elements of his psyche.
- The delusion, if acted out, often leads to behaviors which are abnormal and/or out of character, although perhaps understandable in the light of the delusion.
- Individuals who know the patient will observe that his
belief and behavior are uncharacteristic and alien.
Ironically, the RRS
exhibit all of
these symptoms.
[edit] Why "Theism is a Mental Disorder" is Retarded
Not only did they steal this amazing edgy new theory straight from Richard Dawkins, the fact that atheism can also be construed as a delusional disorder based on a generalized non-specific list of behaviors escapes them. "The patient expresses an idea or belief with unusual persistence or force." Remind you of anyone?
What does this prove? It just proves that they taking something out of context and abusing psychology to promote a biased agenda.
The Retarded Response Squad supported this claim by saying that they were backed up by some psychologists. One of these was the big titted concubine of Brian Sapient, KellyM78, who had (according to Sapient) "understood read some books about psychology" and was "in no way a biased agendaist (sic)". As with all bozos who think they understand psychology they fail to grasp some fundamentals, such as the fact that even the APA doesn't support shrinks imposing their own religious/spiritual, nor antireligious/spiritual ideas on others let alone unqualified, narcissistic dickheads.
Rather than admitting there is no support for their Quixotic crusade, they feel that somehow they are ahead of the curve and will get religion classified as a mental disorder in the DSM-5 or 6. This is about as likely as getting into Heaven by eating the flesh of a Jewish zombie.
[edit] Supporting their Claim using work that has already been rejected by the Author
The RRS cited Dr Albert Ellis as support for their theory that "Theism is a Mental Disorder". Dr Albert Ellis is the psychotherapist who developed cognitive REBT therapy; however the essay they use to support this position was later discredited by none other than Dr Albert Ellis himself in a subsequent essay in which he stated the glaringly obvious fact that only the really crazy evangelical rapture believing hell and damnation creationists could be in any way described as having unhealthy delusions.
In short the RRS's completely unscientific and unsupported crusade to have theism categorized in the DSM as "Grandiose Delusional Disorder" is "a idea or belief which is, at the least, is unlikely and is expressed with unusual persistence or force in a humorless and oversensitive way" that when "an attempt is made to show that the belief is false is likely to arouse an inappropriately strong emotional reaction, irritability and hostility".
Considering that this flawed idea resulted in the formation of the RRS - it is sensible to suggest that "the idea has exerted an undue influence on his or her life, and the way of life is altered to an inexplicable extent."
Following this disastrous debunking of one of the RRS's "Founding Strategic Aims",
former supporters called for Sapient's resignation from the RRS.
[edit] The Dawkins Foundation distancing themselves
04 January 2008
According to Reed Braden of the blog site Unorthodox Atheism and the podcast "Two Smokin' Hot Freethinkers" your friendly neighborhood pan troglodytic boobs Sapient and "Kelly's Tits" (kelly78) decided to join 5 other atheists in a conference call where they tried to start a rumor that Richard Dawkins himself was having an affair with a member of the new management staff.
Why attack their lord? Reed explains the new managements at the Dawkins Foundation got annoyed with the RRS, "riding the coattails of Professor Dawkins into pseudo-stardom" and took steps to distance them selves from the self proclaimed king and queen of atheism. When pressed for proof they "claimed" it was confidential. Interestingly enough just before Reed's blog was published the RRS pulled all pictures on their website showing them selves and Dawkins, as well as all YT videos of him in their hotel room.
Sapient's response was, "I get the feeling you are a christian of some sort masquerading. I will likely file suit against you in the future. As it's only gonna become a bigger story." So in short, the Dawkins crew take steps to cut the imaginary connection to the RRS, Sapient and Girlfriend start a rumor about Dawkins to get someone fired, someone blogs their transparent attempt at retaliation, and Sapient resort to the usual bullying tactics and emotional appeals failing to realize had he just dropped it in Skype there wouldn't be anything to blog about.
[edit] RRS vs Dawkins - Who's #1?
Since being cock-blocked from the RD website, Sapient has been on a crusade to prove their website is better. To this end he's been actively getting users of this site to download the Alexa tool bar. Kelly's Tits explains the two day drop in ratings was a result of them being black listed from Alexa, a matter which was "resolved". Since their campaign began, they managed to overtake richarddawkins.net in pageviews, but not reach, making the end ranking suspicious to say the least. When asked Kelly's Tits responds, "I'm done with this retarded conversation. Thread closed."
Between February 21, 2008 and March 23rd the RRS's 3 month Alexa average managed somehow to climb above richarddawkins.net in ratings, a fact they were so very proud of, or rather something they spammed everywhere to show advertisers to get money. However it was the height of hubris to make this claim when trying to compare your self to a site which has maintained the higher Alexa rank for over a year with some short term spikes in use, but not unique users. But still, a very insignificant site (#24,134 21Feb2008) managed to overtake another insignificant site (Dawkins - #23,882) and keep a higher average for 31 days. As of March 23rd 2008 they are back to being second rate douche bags.
[edit] RRS E-mail posted - Sapient Calls Police
Brian Sapient, in an act of true rationality, phoned the Borough of Hatboro, PA police 28 Feb 2008 (215-675-2832) department when a user reposted a private e-mail and claimed harassment and copyright violations. Officer Valloway phoned at 2:17am about some “website postings”.[[37]]
- “From: infidelsapient@hotmail.com
- To: my hotmail address that I never use
- Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 4:31 PM
- Subject: Go fuck yourself cunt
- A letter from all of us at RRS...
- Go fuck yourself. We see you in public, and we'll let everyone in the room know about your baggage. Bitch.
- http://www.rantsnraves.org/showthread.php?t=7740
- Your fucking scum. So glad none of the atheist groups want you back. Idiot.”
What the friendly neighborhood pan troglodytic boobs don’t seem to understand is:
- E-mails are not copyrightable, unless they are a ‘creative work’
- If this was copyrightable, then quoting it for critical review meets fair use guidelines
- If this was a copyright violation, it would be a civil matter, not a criminal one
- The e-mail in question is threatening a person to cease and desist under the threat of further personal harassment.
Other than showing a lack of understanding of basic grammar and copyright law, Sapient shows us once again that the Rational Response Squad is about as interested in free speech as the Church of Scientology.
[edit] Paranoid Sapient won't participate in Anonymous CoS protests
While the official position of the RRS is that the church of Scientology is just as irrational as any other religion, we've seen a lack of support regarding protests on the church of Scientology. This leaked e-mail explains why
- From: sapient
- To: Janice Rael
- Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 8:08 AM
- Subject: Re: Sunday Feb 10. Philly demo
- Janice,
- I just wanted to let you know I happen to think "anonymous" is a detriment to society. It would take me too long to explain. The easiest explanation...if you've ever seen the movie Idiocracy, a world in which we promote "anonymous" will turn in to the world of Idiocracy not too far down the road. Further, your children and my children are likely to be verbally and mentally abused by the kids in anonymous. They are people who find happiness when delivering physical or mental pain to others, for the most part they are all young. I've seen them responsible for the suicides of several people who couldn't withstand the mental anguish that "anonymous" followers put them through, and the reaction from "anonymous" is: LULZ.
- I beg you to look into them a little more.
- They are the people that run and congregate at: www.encyclopediadramatica.com, www.711chan.org, www.411chan.org, and also that partyvan site.
- THIS LETTER IS NEVER TO BE FORWARDED OR RELEASED. AND PLEASE DON'T MENTION THAT I EXPLAINED THIS TO YOU. ANYONE WHO SPEAKS AGAINST ANONYMOUS BECOMES A TARGET. (like Islam and Scientology)
- In Rationality,
- Brian Sapient
- It's rumored that Sapient checks under his bed for Anonymous members targeting him.
- They advertise for Scientology on their website [[38]]
[edit] Greydon Square Squarely punches Sapient in face
![Greydon Square takes shit from no one, if you don't get your CD, he gets angry. Operators are standing by[4], some proceeds used to keep the lead singer out of jail.](/Image:Greydon_square_punch_in_the_face.jpg)
According to this blog post, Greydon Square, A.K.A. 'The black Carl Sagan' and insignificant RRS douchebag, in an epic moment of bi-polar bear power-lulz pops the self proclaimed Ayatollah Of Atheism in the face... many times. One observer thought he was trying to demonstrate the Compton Effect, but Greydon was quick to point out his fist doesn't exhibit properties of a particle and a wave, and there was no way he could accelerate his fist up to the speed of light, no matter how many times he tried.
It seems the heart of this dispute is over CD sales. Sapient saw a chance to make a 1000% profit and gain music rights to his videos, but would take people's money and not give them a product. Further, the price of his album at "$11.99 via physical distribution on his homepage"[39] but without his knowledge or consent upped the price to $15, making Greydon look like a fraud. On top of this, Sapient took money as an agent of Greydon, guaranteed shipping in 7 days[40], kept the money and shipped nothing, making it look like a poor attempt at wire and postal fraud. An unpaid flunky was blamed. When asked to stop sales of the CD until this dispute was resolved by a neutral arbitrator, Sapient refused claiming ownership over Greydon's copyrighted work and had yet to make back his investment. It was at this point Greydon punched Sapient in the face. Kelly's Tits were reported as saying, "it was a violent savage animalistic assault by a low-life thug who put shame on the atheist community." She also wonders why Brian isn't getting any sympathy, and can't understand why anyone would be upset by seemingly valid accusations of embezzlement, wire fraud, mail fraud, and price fraud or someone attempting to exercise their copyright. She is also reported to have large titz. A table was also toppled in this exchange.
While many douchebags would like to ban Greydon Square from future conferences, he will still perform at The Atheist Experience[41] June 20th 2008. Learn about how the belief in God is not logical, and how it's more logical to spend your life obsessed over the lack of belief in something. Sapient was unavailable for comment whether he'll face the Black Sagan in the ring again.
We here at ED would like to say we are sorry for the altercation. Brian Sapient generates much lulz. Get well soon you stupid self-aggrandizing son of a bitch so we can laugh at you.
Sapient offers defamationand more defamation
Discuss this issue on | Richarddawkins.net, | Rants & Raves, | Internet Infidels
Ever seen Atheist Rap? It makes Christian rock look good.
[edit] Rook Hawkins speaks to NYC Atheists - described as "scholarly"
Rook Hawkins is the Squad's resident expert on "Ancient texts" and biblical shit was invited to speak to NYC-Atheists, a small fringe atheist cult known to frequent Kennedy's Irish Restaurant. Their press agent, Jane Everhart, overly excited about a boy over half her age didn't bother to check Rook's credentials as she knew he was a work in progress. She made the following claims
- Rook Hawkins was a self-taught expert on the Bible, a public historian[42], and bible specialist[43].
- Translated the ENTIRE bible from Greek.
- and was invited to publish academic series.
Jane Everhart is a independent journalist, freelance editor[44], and prolific spammer of private listservs[45] who can't grasp that a press release is for the press and shouldn't be large enough to choke a horse and be sent to every e-mail she runs across. Rook Hawkins might not even be a high school graduate, is totally unpublished, and writes on the 10th grade level. But Jane, lacking in any journalistic integrity, spammed the world with her mammoth 96 line press release with laudable claims that don't pass the sniff test. She claims to be totally inundated by 6 e-mails from two people over a week informing her that Rook is a fraud.
So no atheist would ever dispute an unpublished uncredentialed douche bag that claims he can prove there was no Jesus, constructed a conspiracy theory where people are paid by the Vatican to discredit a person's thesis that can be summed up like this, "The bible is crap, so there was no Jesus, 'cause there is no reason to believe there was". One critic perpetrated some epic lulz by faxing the restaurant Rook was speaking at[46] [47] which resulted in a huge panic attack by Jane. It's reported she was looking under the tables for Vatican Commandos while they spent an hour figuring out the sound system. One attendee Roy Pertchik felt, "somewhat abused by the talk; assailed[48]" which is no surprise as Rook mumbled quickly a bunch of foreign sounding names for an hour to establish the bible is crap. Positive reviews describe him as being "very scholarly" but when asked what Rook talked about, they had no fucking clue but it sure sounded scholarly.
Rook's detractors [49][50] were never hiding, they are most public in two threads with over 1,800 replies. His position has been thoroughly debunked by TeamFFI[51][52] among others. Only one person bothered to bring up the debate, suggesting there is no reason to believe there was no Jesus just because the bible is crap, to which Rook responded "there is no reason to think he did". Rook feels pretty good as he's the sort of boy who gets validation by getting negative attention. Jane Everhart gets her validation by doing stupid shit and blaming criticism on evil fanatic Christians when ALL THE CRITICS WHERE WELL KNOWN ATHEISTS.
[edit] Why NYC Atheists is a stupid pseudo-cult
This was after pages of comments were deleted, but her distaste of censorship continued for exactly 16 hours where every comment critical of Rook declaring him self an expert or Jane fraudulently promoting Rook as, among other things, the guy who translated the bible from Greek by age 25, where deleted but printed to PDFs by a critic.[53].
So the bottom line:
- Jane uncritically accepted Rook's claims and blew up his profile;
- She refused to listen to valid queries about how she was presenting him;
- Displayed extreme paranoia about Rook's critics, even accepting his lie that we were theists;
- Exaggerated about the number of people critical of their advert, and their motivation
- Made vicious allegations regarding child-molestation;
- Lied about harassment;
- Cried Vatican Conspiracy and the group subsequently edited/deleted and banned contributions and contributors to the debate[54].
This begs the question, if we have a fanatical believer becoming a fanatical nonbeliever, what the fuck is the difference. In short, NYC Atheists is commanded by megalomaniacal demagogues who claim to embrace reason, but use emotion to guide people to their ultimate purpose, a world free of Christians. The only difference is religion is better organized. As a result of this epic lulz NYC Atheists is now #2 on Rant n' Raves cult watch list.
[edit] Why Rook Hawkins Position is Crap
The bible isn't just crap, it's built on crap, built from crap. Over centuries there were many people on soap boxes spewing crap. Someone wrote down this crap, and in the fourth century someone assembled the biggest pile of crap in history. In order for Rook's position to work, the bible must be designed for a purpose, not just a bunch of random crap. Bottom line - anyone who uses crap to prove the existence of someone who spewed crap, you get crap. Once you accept the bible is crap, you can move on, unless your a narcissistic douche bag with something to prove.
Learn Moar | Richarddawkins.net "What Rook is Not, | Rants & Raves " Continuing the "Dialogue" Rook Hawkins", | NYC Atheist censored message boards, | Some shitty blog with links to censored comments"
[edit] How to troll
A great way to troll is to post in the (freethinkersonly) forum on their site and call them totalitarian retards, rook will quickly slap a "theist" label on your user name and make it impossible to post a new topic, you should then proceed to 50 Hitler or goatse reply on as many topics as possible before they ban you, lulz will most definitely ensue. Make sure to get screenshots and call them a bunch of "Fundies" for extra points.
[edit] Notable Videos
The Rational Response Squad is a Stupid Disorder Part 1 - by Chaotheist
The Rational Response Squad is a Stupid Disorder Part 2 - by Chaotheist
More evidence Sapient is full of shit Part 1 - by Chaotheist
More evidence Sapient is full of shit Part 2 - by Chaotheist
Brian Sapient is a petty, Megalomaniacal Demagogue by FakeSagan
Megalomania vs the Genius by Ashetheraven
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| —fakesagan |
"psychiatrist" has been struck of the register
for years and can no longer practice psychiatry
[edit] Links
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Unorthodox Atheism More threats from Sapient |
Do you not mean Unorthodox Atheism - Sapient having a fit |
[edit] Resources
- Rational Response on Youtube
- Response Youtube account Where they try and deal with the people who point out that they are idiots.
- http://www.rationalresponders.com/forums - Forums. A place to fuck with people.
- http://www.rationalresponders.org/ - Rational Response fan page.
- rationalresponders Myspace page
- Brian Sapient's MySpace
- Kellym78's Myspace page
- http://www.stickam.com/profile/sapient - Brian Sapient's Stickam profile
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