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[edit] ATTN!

Go here if you would like to join the Encyclopedia Dramatica mailing list. Topics will include articles, the site, etc. We want YOU. --Sheneequa • Talk 17:01, 5 November 2007 (CST)

[edit] Drugz4Kidz

[edit] News from FLORIDA

Jenkem-huffing is now the style. --Image:Schwarzesonne.gif| »⇔«¿ 18:47, 6 November 2007 (CST)

  • Finally totse has something to be proud about. Lol, pickwick you crazy kid.

EDIT: LOL VIDEO WATCH HERE: http://www.winknews.com/news/local/10987146.html -Thanks for the link ytter,

[edit] FOX NEWS REPORTS

OH SHI-

--Jawsome OMG LENSFLARE! 00:04, 7 November 2007 (CST)

[edit] Finland school shooter-- eBaum's world to blame

Core discovered this in the Norwegian newspaper:

  • He made a CS:S map of the school he was going to shoot up [1] :awesome: Adjective Noun 07:13, 8 November 2007 (CST)

[edit] ED attacked

  • Who is that guy? He needs an article written about him. --Image:Schwarzesonne.gif| »⇔«¿ 23:31, 7 November 2007 (CST)
    • It's ChannelReviews. Right now it's a redirect to Miaarose. --Philaster 01:08, 8 November 2007 (CST)

◄ € Zenophile ﮚ ► æ ◄ Ǽ Talk ► 08:33, 8 November 2007 (CST)

[edit] ARTICLE OF NOW - and How I learned to love Holocaust Porn

AON needs help. Holocaust porn was been up for days. we need moar. there was a website a couple years back called nazi niggers and it was simply bald dudes fucking black ladies with nazi armbands on heiling off into space. funny stuff. Weatherman 10:04, 8 November 2007 (CST)

[edit] anuebunnie

Anuebunnie - make this look less shitty. The intro isn't too great either. What we have here is known as capital lulz - something we can make lulz out of. However we need to synthesize it into lulz-profits and make the article have at least a little asthetic appeal.

I would probably recommend moving the logs to a subpage and using the quote template for her best lines on the main article. PLZ HELP SO WE CAN FEATURE THIS AS WE ARE RUNNING LOW ON FEATURED ARTICLES. --Sheneequa • Talk I believe in Jesus Christ as my Savior. If you do too and aren't scared to admit it, then copy and paste this in your signature. :heart 18:03, 8 November 2007 (CST)

[edit] the Lulz Campaign

Hello fellow EDiots and Dramacrats alike,

On another forum, i am running for president and am representing the Lulz party. If you want (i know ED is not my personal army), go here and vote for peabrain (me) in the election poll. Remember LULZ FTW!!
Image:Lulzbadge.jpg --ratso 19:00, 8 November 2007 (CST)

  • GTFO Salambo<3 19:19, 8 November 2007 (CST)
    • The Summer of Love ended 40+ years ago.
    • I wouldn't mind seeing one page to showcase all the less-likely-to-win presidential candidates, like this guy, and this guy. Only if they can be trolled into instant-message interviews, though. --Image:Schwarzesonne.gif| »⇔«¿ 19:25, 8 November 2007 (CST)

[edit] Twenty Dollar Blow-Job Bob (R-Florida)

Is anyone keen to add to our rapidly growing list of articles concerned with gay Republicans who insist they are straight? You may recall that Florida State Senator Bob Allen was arrested a couple of months ago at a public toilet for trying to give a blow-job to a huge negro undercover cop for $20. Anyway his totally embarassing trial has begun, and since it's Florida, there are plenty of salacious and disgusting details. Here's an account from yesterday. Here is one from today. Fuck, I hope they don't aquit him. Someone kindly take this and run with it! Talk amongst yourselves! --Image:Schwarzesonne.gif| »⇔«¿ 19:37, 8 November 2007 (CST)

  • It'd be nice if these guys were open with being pervs and tried to make things like prostitution legal. Ritegroic 20:05, 8 November 2007 (CST)
  • I don't really follow politrix closely enough to know all the people you're talking about; though, if you give me a list of the people you're talking about that already have articles, I think a "gay republicans who insist they're straight" template or "series" would be excellent.Salambo<3 Needs to LURK MOAR
Image:Closet_icon.jpg Thizzlehat Junction Center/Archive20 is part of a series on Closet Republicans.



  • Lol there already is one. --Entropy 22:08, 8 November 2007 (CST)
    • This place gets better everyday. Salambo<3 22:21, 8 November 2007 (CST)
      • I started a page for Bob Allen, but won't be able to work on it today. I put a ton of raw material and resources there, so please everybody jump in and develop this scandal. --Image:Schwarzesonne.gif| »⇔«¿ 09:56, 9 November 2007 (CST)

[edit] Cyberrape

Cyberrape - make this a bit better and pump it with pics etc. --Sheneequa • Talk I believe in Jesus Christ as my Savior. If you do too and aren't scared to admit it, then copy and paste this in your signature. :heart 21:24, 8 November 2007 (CST)

[edit] Alicia Keys MySpace drama

November 8, 2007, 7:22 pm Hackers Infect Alicia Keys’s MySpace Page

The MySpace page of singer Alicia Keys has become the latest vehicle for malware on the Web.

Researchers at the Atlanta, GA-based Exploit Prevention Labs have discovered multiple hacked MySpace pages, including the personal page of the R&B artist. Also hacked were pages for Greements of Fortune, a French funk band, and Dykeenies, a rock band from Glasgow.

When visitors click almost anywhere on these infected site, they are directed to co8vd.cn/s, which appears to be a Chinese malware site. The visitors then see a box on their screen telling them they need to install a special codec to view the video – a legitimate possibility on any site rich in media. But if the visitor clicks ‘yes’, the site installs software that appears to be a rootkit and DNS changer. This would allow the hackers to take over what you see on your browser and what you download onto your computer.

“They are going to catch a lot of people with this one,” said Roger Thompson, chief technology officer of Exploit Prevent Labs. “This is a a very rich media page, as are most MySpace pages. There is every expectation you are going to see a video… It’s not at all unreasonable to think you might have to install something.”

Click here for Mr. Thompson’s video demonstration of the attack.

[edit] Requesting emergency raping:

Hey guys, could you please give User:LULZFORLULZ and User:The Fool who knows that everyone here is jealous surprise sex plz? Thanks! Burkaburka bitch about it 20:16, 9 November 2007 (CST)

[edit] new meme?

i havn't seen any new meme's lately, have you guys? --ratso 21:30, 9 November 2007 (CST)

[edit] Puppet-kun

Hello there! I've been an avid fan of ED for a good while now, and this is one of the first edits I've ever made.

I come from the Midna Fan Forum - www.midnafanforum.com - a site which does not specialise in furry porn, contrary to popular belief, and unfortunately I've got to ask if you can remove an article or at least remove certain sections of it.

I speak of one article in particular. Puppetkun. In brief, Puppetman is a moderator at the Midna Fan Forum who has two camps around him - one who love him and one who hate him. His haters decided to create an article about him simply to spite him. After looking over this article, much of it is untrue and is quoted without context and, to be honest, isn't exactly lulzworthy.

To add salt to the wound, Puppetkun happens to be incredibly sensitive when it comes to sharing personal information. Simply stating his first name on the boards has been known to make him feel incredibly uncomfortable, and I notice this is in the article. If he were to come across this article, there are numerous things in it that I reckon would cause him to become very upset and possibly leave the forums.

I'm not going to threaten you with e-lawyers or with t3h h4x. I'm not going to just edit the page myself, for I know this will take a little credibility away from my request. My request is simply that this unfunny article is either deleted or severe edits are made to it.

I'm sorry to be a wet towel. I'm simply acting in Puppet's stead, for if he were to see it, it'd be a huge loss to the forum.

Thanks for understanding Cheeseweasel 12:06, 10 November 2007 (CST)

20 bux says that you are Puppetkun's sock. LOL Sockpuppetkun! --Wilds 14:35, 10 November 2007 (CST)

Sorry man, but I'm not. Seriously-- I would make him post here so you could see his IP compared to mine, but I don't want him to see the article. Cheeseweasel 15:31, 10 November 2007 (CST)

  • Get out, you conceited furry fucktard. It's not as if dragons like you care about your birth identities anyway. Seriously, just mark all those pages {{baleetplz}} and leave. --Aghar  Image:Aghar_hockeydog_signature.gif   17:19, 10 November 2007 (CST)

Sorry if I came across as conceited. Like I said, I don't make many edits here; I'm not really ver used to writing ED style. Once again, sorry, and thanks for the help - I've marked that article now. Cheeseweasel 18:39, 10 November 2007 (CST)

  • You didn't come across as conceited, rather, I'm appalled that anyone anywhere thinks that crap or community is worth documenting. ED is about lulz, not lame laments that only furries can understand. Too much inside baseball. --Aghar  Image:Aghar_hockeydog_signature.gif   22:29, 10 November 2007 (CST)
  • Puppetkun doesn't exist, and none of us exist except in our little fantasies. This is all just internets. Nothing to worry about. The problem begins when imaginary characters start to think they're real. There is only me tapping on plastic squares and looking at stuff on a screen. If you existed, you would be doing the same thing. We are only interacting with these machines. Also, if may I say, imaginary people should not be upset when other imaginary people make fun of their art. It's just internets. --Image:Schwarzesonne.gif| »⇔«¿ 02:44, 11 November 2007 (CST)

[edit] Possible main page redesign shit.

Hey ED, I've been tossing around a few main page design concepts to add some new sections and revive some old ones, without overly cluttering the main page. Thanks to Whitemystery's collapsing objects javascript, I've managed to come up with two different designs.

Your input is appreciated. --Blu Aardvark 06:27, 11 November 2007 (CST)

[edit] fact

I'm sure some of you have noticed, but I molested the fact template because people can't seem to figure out that it shouldn't be slapped on every goddamn article. Even Uncyclopedia seems to have made great strides toward not fagging up every entry with pointless templates. (Wikipedia, on the other hand, has not, but they're all uberfags anyway, and Noone gives a shit.) People need to learn to stop abusing the templates. Articles are not automatically made funny by having LOLOLOL RANDOM MEME slapped in an annoying manner at the top of the page and scattered throughout, and if you think that they are, you're on the wrong wiki. Please, please, please, do not keep turning ED into a racist, homophobic, and sexist Uncyclopedia with a lot of swearing and 4chan references. It's not what we're designed for. --Blu Aardvark 06:41, 11 November 2007 (CST)

  • {{warning}} has been molested as well. --Blu Aardvark 19:00, 11 November 2007 (CST)
  • {{tinyfact}} is nuked as well. dyk and {{spoiler}} are next on the list if I keep noting the extreme and faggoty overuse of these templates. --Blu Aardvark 13:53, 16 November 2007 (CST)
I admit to being a Wikipedian. That being said, I also admit that Wikipedia calls molesting "deleting and salting"...Rickyrab 17:57, 17 November 2007 (CST)

[edit] Suggestion for changing ED coding?

I know it would be a ridiculously hard feature to add or maybe not but a forward back navigation for the articles gallerys would rock


[edit] Trolling

I made a fake MySpace page for hypocritical gay US politician Patrick McHenry. My goal is to subtly create reasons for his loyal fans and citizen voters to doubt him, and to think maybe some of those "gay rumors" might actually be true. The fake MySpace page is here. Anyway, the first fish has nibbled the bait, and there is unexpectedly a groovie ED connection!


--Image:Schwarzesonne.gif| »⇔«¿ 11:16, 11 November 2007 (CST)

  • You might have a better chance of successfully trolling this guy if you didn't publish the detailsof your efforts in such a publicly viewable location. --Blu Aardvark 23:46, 11 November 2007 (CST)
    • I know, but I think that even if they found their way to ED (as someone did!), I don't know if they'd find their way to this page, which will eventually be archived anyway. I was just bursting with childlike glee and needed to share my delight. --Image:Schwarzesonne.gif| »⇔«¿ 00:05, 12 November 2007 (CST)
  • Kekeke. --Blu Aardvark 00:12, 12 November 2007 (CST)

Oh, try and drive over the highway between Arizona and Nevada where the only way through is over the hoover dam unless you take this long 1-lane sideroute that takes you maybe 100 miles out of your way. If you have a truckload of stuff or heaven forbid a big Uhaul/Ryder style truck they either will manhandle all your belongings for hours or they tell youu that you have to turn around and go back. At least I can go to the airport now and not get pulled over almost every time so they can look in my trunk and I can stop my car for 5 seconds to actually pick someone up at the airport now. You know, if you try to explain to the cops that impose all these restrictions that all the terrorism are really secret plots by the Jews (eg WTC), they get upset for some reason. Ritegroic 21:47, 13 November 2007 (CST)

  • I already did something similar with the now deleted Dianne Thorley myspace, it turns out I friended someone she knows and she was told about it. I found this out through an IRL friend who had to hold back her lulz as she was being told. Not long after this drama Dianne Thorley announced she is now retiring, for no apparent reason. --Entropy 18:29, 19 November 2007 (CST)

[edit] Prince is SFB

Just wanted to let the sysops know that Prince could demand that we take any likeness of his off of ED at any time. He's SRS BIZ. - Eatenbyrobots 07:22, 12 November 2007 (CST)

[edit] A good image for blocked people

This pic should be added to MediaWiki:Blockedtext. The current pic should stay, but this one should be added on also.^^ 16:13, 12 November 2007 (CST)

  • No.--Joeblow9000 08:01, 13 November 2007 (CST)
    • Why? Only blocked people would see it, and they deserve to receive a shock image.^^ 21:52, 13 November 2007 (CST)
      • We've had much much worse than that in the past, but it became old meme. So when we're bored we can always Pain4 them or whatever but as a general it's kind of pointless. --Sheneequa • Talk 21:54, 13 November 2007 (CST)
        • So goatse pix are also out, I suppose. That meme is not only old, but moldy and full of rot besides. Rickyrab 17:55, 17 November 2007 (CST)

[edit] TV Tip: The Crying Game

Tears of joy. I heart the Writers's Guild strike.

--Image:Littlemudkip.gifImage:Littlemudkip.gifImage:Littlemudkip.gifOldDirtyBtardImage:Littlemudkip.gifImage:Littlemudkip.gifImage:Littlemudkip.gif 20:54, 13 November 2007 (CST)

[edit] Plz to add new furfag

Requesting that a page for DevianTART Outfoxedtw be added due to Dramalulz ensuing over 'plagerized' work.

http://outfoxedtw.deviantart.com/

DA furfaggorty plagerism accustation can be found here, other than the actual gallery page (http://killerwatt.deviantart.com/art/Hellbent-Tartaran-Weapons-69077733). Isn't this some rule about the right way to comment on DA? x3

http://comments.deviantart.com/1/69077733/584542715

Have fun, ne?

-Blueluc

UPDATE:

Outfoxed has recently posted [2] on his page in order to try and beat down what he sees as plagerism. JackHawkins (of GoddessMillenia raep fame) is currently working to udermine him on his comments page. Plz to be halping. --BlueLuc 22:05, 14 November 2007 (CST)


  • LOL WUT

In looking at the crap posted above and browsing the mentioned DA pages, I came across this. Image:DAfoxshit.JPG "I can't be responsible for what my friends do, even if I beg for a page to be made because I'm too lazy" Lol...--SmallChange 21:45, 15 November 2007 (CST)

[edit] Habbo Hotel is the man now

Habbo Hotel has apparently started arresting people for "stealing" furniture. evidence of the faggotry Burkaburka bitch about it 12:29, 14 November 2007 (CST)

[edit] domestic discipline

http://lovingdd.blogspot.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_discipline_%28lifestyle%29

My wife found this, and I think it's pretty hilarious. It's basically people who are into BSDM, but they won't admit it. They crave "structure" in the form of their husbands giving them a good old fashioned spanking when they misbehave. In other words, women who know their place. They also think domestic dicipline is serious busniess. Just putting it out there, maybe someone can run with it. - Serious Cat 22:37, 15 November 2007 (CST)

I say hand it over to some srs feminists and watch lulz ensue. Thundercunt 01:06, 7 December 2007 (CST)

[edit] Funny IMDb forums thread:

Hi

I don't really know *anything* about creating pages or editing them properly, but I thought someone here might appreciate this:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000553/board/flat/13331381?p=1

I usually stay away from the IMDb message boards (after all they are where your brain goes to die) but I noticed this on the Liam Neeson board and my curiosity was piqued. It was very funny and it was nice to see 'proverbs' getting a thorough owning.

) Cheers ~ Jade ~

[edit] John Edwards/Barack Obama slash!

Here's a link to a very lulzworthy slash fic pairing John Edwards and Barack Obama on the completely perverted erotica stories site nifty.org (they actually have sections devoted to pedophilia, bestiality and coprophilia etc, including a very culturally inclusive Native American section (the faggotry of this section is phenomenal - every character is called Running Cloud or Whispering Pine or Ovulating Goat or some shit)...

http://www.meninboys.com/nifty/gay/celebrity/john-obama/

Thought someone might appreciated how fucked-up this is.

~Jade :)

p.s... On a completely different note, there are a couple funny YouTube videos circulating ~

One is a blog vid of some pseudo-Japanese kid named Hiroshi bitching about Asian penis size before delivering this gem:

GOD IS SO RACIST!!!!

And another one is blocked to all but over-18s, but its pretty entertaining. The 'drama queen' gives advice on how to tell if your husband is cheating.

CAN I SMELL YOUR DICK? LEMME SMELL YOUR DICK!

  • links to videos plz

◄ € Zenophile ﮚ ► æ ◄ Ǽ Talk ► 04:24, 18 November 2007 (CST)

Small Penis Video Link+++Now that's what I call 8bit!!!

[edit] Those crazy Japanese

http://www.2girls1finger.com Salambo<3 10:26, 18 November 2007 (CST)

[edit] EDiots interested in LiveJournal drama: ATTENTION!

If the topic applies to you, please connect to irc.encyclopediadramatica.com #lj We are working on an article which could end up pretty well, but we need your help. --Sheneequa • Talk 16:54, 19 November 2007 (CST)

[edit] rape = lulz amirite?

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/11/19/child.rape/index.html?iref=mpstoryview 

"Three boys, 8 and 9, charged with raping 11-year-old girl"

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL ratso 21:56, 19 November 2007 (CST)

  • First thing, ratso, you are still an hyperactive idiot and part of the cancer that is killing ED. Just so you know... Anyway, what gets me is that the police cheif is saying that rape charges must stand because an 11 year old girl can not consent to sex. The fallacy there is that if the kids did consent amongst each other, then to be completely fucking honest, the girl needs to get charged with rape too. That, or the police subscribe to BitingBeaver's notion that only men are rapists and they are all born that way. --Aghar  Image:Aghar_hockeydog_signature.gif   17:56, 20 November 2007 (CST)
    • Looking at blogs and other news posts, I'm luckily not the only guy kinda pissed at the double standard. That, and apparently the girl was quite a bit bigger and there was another girl present. I'm 90% certain these charges are backwards, and it's kinda pissing me off. --Aghar  Image:Aghar_hockeydog_signature.gif   18:07, 20 November 2007 (CST)
      • I could find no news report on this saying another girl was present. Link? Ritegroic 01:43, 21 November 2007 (CST)
        • Almost here, says she was playing tag with another girl when the boys lured her away, deep into the woods. Maybe 3 or 4 feet or so in there. Girl actually gave an interview, which boggles my mind and sets off my bullshit radar. --Aghar  Image:Aghar_hockeydog_signature.gif   08:08, 21 November 2007 (CST)
    • damn im jealous why in the hell did i not had sex at 8 with a 11year old.Ephebo66 02:44, 23 November 2007 (CST) those boys should be heros.

[edit] Memes? In my ED?

best collapsey evar - Serious Cat 14:58, 20 November 2007 (CST)

  • Clickable container (right now, a link) needs to not have "javascript" as its href attribute. That be bad form. Use function called in onLoad() to loop through containers of a certain class to apply this behavior. This would make the function moar extensible, eliminate the use of a link (when it's not really needed) and thus remove "javascript" from its href.

Salambo<3 17:02, 20 November 2007 (CST)

[edit] Wife walks free after feeding husband faeces-laced meal

News: http://news.scotsman.com/glasgow.cfm?id=1746432007 Wife walks free after feeding husband faeces-laced meal. Ritegroic 01:22, 21 November 2007 (CST)

[edit] Wikipedia's best article

Wikipedia's best article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_bathhouse

It has pictures of two naked gay men doing things to each other. It has quotes like "In France the first recorded police raid on a Parisian bathhouse was in 1876 in the Bains de Gymnase on the Rue du Faubourg-Poissonnière when six men aged 14 to 22 were prosecuted for an offense against public decency and the manager and two employees for facilitating pederasty."

I'm saying ED needs an article on this. Here's a source of pictures: http://www.bathhouseaddict.com/ Ritegroic 01:57, 21 November 2007 (CST)


 
“ 		 
Interested men will usually look at each other; in this highly sexualized environment a look is frequently enough to express interest. A nod signals interest, while looking away or shaking the head is usually enough to signal a lack of interest, though sometimes people misunderstand or refuse to take the hint. Such men are called trolls
  		„
 

—Wikipedia on Gay Bathouses

According to Wikipedia, "Bathouses" are "places where men can go to have sex with other men, date back to the 15th century"..."the tradition of public baths dates back to the 6th century BC and there are many ancient records of homosexual activity in Greece."

I cannot believe how misinformative Wikipedia is here.
EVERYONE knows that homosexuality is a "new fad" caused by a combination of the following:

  • Adolescent exposure to Morrisey
  • Parents allowing their children to watch H.B.O (Homosexual Broadcasting Organisation)
  • American Idol
  • A misreading of Baden Powell's classic "Scouting for Boys"

◄ € Zenophile ﮚ ► æ ◄ Ǽ Talk ► 06:57, 21 November 2007 (CST)

[edit] Kaola Fuckers Alert

A 13-year-old boy logs in as adminastrator to get thru a filter, runs a blog, says hes a hacker and becomes a election campainer.VandalFucker 05:14, 21 November 2007 (CST)

[edit] Nigersaurus?

Some scientists recently discovered the remains of a dinosaur with a blunt nose and really big lips. Since it reminded them so much of a nigga, they dubbed it the Nigersaurus. Which, of course, is only one letter away from "niggersaurus." I sense potential lulz in this ancient beast.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21818194/ <<--article with pictures and shit. —The preceding comment was added by Doubletalk, who is too much of a faggot to sign his or her own posts. IT'S 4 TILDES (~), NOT ROCKET SCIENCE!

[edit] Megan Meier Vigilantes

Vigilante posts names of bloggers posting blogs that haven't deleted comments of posters that encourage threats against the people that killed Megan Meier.

The perfect ending will be somebody identifying "AES". --Aghar  Image:Aghar_hockeydog_signature.gif   07:31, 22 November 2007 (CST)

◄ € Zenophile ﮚ ► æ ◄ Ǽ Talk ► 11:05, 22 November 2007 (CST)

[edit] Too fucking late at night...

GOD DAMN IT! I fucked up. Image:Lolbanned.JPG isn't supposed to be named that, but I had to re-select the image after I converted it from .png so that it wouldn't be over 150kb. So... can a sysop rename it to Image:Omobanned.jpg or something? Thanks. Burkaburka bitch about it 23:53, 24 November 2007 (CST)

[edit] Durova forced to resign

There's lots of drama on wikipedia, I put the very basics of Durova being forced to resign due to banning the wrong person due to her seekrit evidence (again), in her article. But an editor who's not shit could improve upon it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_arbitration/Durova_and_Jehochman/Proposed_decision

http://www.wikitruth.info/index.php?title=Durova%27s_Sekret_Evidence

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Durova

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive330#Indefinite_block_of_an_established_editor Goldenflea 11:18, 27 November 2007 (CST)

[edit] Gay Republicans

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[edit] Internet Murder

A 48-year-old man caught up in an internet love triangle was sentenced to 20 years in prison for killing his rival after being dumped by the woman they both competed for.

Thomas Montgomery of Cheektowaga, New York, pleaded guilty in August to the shooting death of 22-year-old Brian Barrett while he sat in a pickup truck shortly after work ended. Kintaro 03:11, 29 November 2007 (CST)

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