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Contents 1 Discussion page from the original article 1.1 Input needed 1.2 Lame move trolling 1.3 can I get a synoposis of what's going on here 2 Recreated article 3 Cleanup

Discussion page from the original article

If he still has a LiveJournal, where is it? thatsenseofpar is not a LiveJournal account. Also, someone review this - I've got to get to work. --Banbot talk to Banbot 12:36, 21 Jul 2005 (UTC)

It's djna. From looking at an entry in Djna's LJ, it seems this guy has something against Josephthelover. Here's the interesting stuff: Djnasibbit (journal deleted), is most likely a sockpuppet of Josephthelover, since he posted on that entry talking about this ED article. That comment makes it clear that Djnasibbit was the one who created this article as a personal attack against Djna.

Further proof that User:Djna is Josephthelover:

1. The drama between djna and Josephthelover never made it into the article. Look closely, from TFA: "After being called an ugly man by a fellow LiveJournal user", "an attentive person", "messaging every person on one member’s friend list" what user? Why the fuck did the OP of this article ommited the name of the user? The explanation is simple, the OP was Josephthelover, trying to use ED to push his personal agenda against Djna.
2. No link to Djna's active LJ was posted in the original article. Why? Simple, it contains entries talking about Josephthelover and the original author was trying as hard as he could to hide the Djna-Joseph connection.
3. One took offense when I piped "attentive person" to stalker, but he didn't take any offense to all the insults against Djna in the article. This has to be the worse attempt of impersonation ever. Look at how he tried to cover his real edit by changing the word fucktard as well. That means the second editor is the same person as the original author. Also, he's the person who got into a cat fight with Josephthelover. And he would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for me, a meddling kid!

I want my Internet Detective badge back.

Seems like Joseph is using ED to push his personal agenda against Djna. I'm going to completely rewrite the article. Joseph, thanks for providing us with A+ drama. ~ Krade 14:10, 21 Jul 2005 (UTC)

• Good internet detecting skills. I did NOT write that journal. I came here from the link in his profile, wanted to see what he wrote about me today, seen that link and decided to mess with it alittle bit. but didnt write it. Why not use your administrator powers to check the ips. All the info was on a thread already, and he really is a troll, look into it (user 1234, josephthelover) -also want to add, he never harrassed me, never sent me 100 messages or whatever it says. I have an ongoing internet beef with on of his friends collapsing that got him to put that stuff on his profile. I sat back and watched him harrass the toronto as well as the debate comunities, ask anyone from the group, he never harrassed me specificly, only on his profile. Really cant you check the IP's. I am user 1234, forgot my jj88 password so created another one once i read that - 1234
  • First of all, I am not an administrator. Wow, in the not4chan drama, I was promoted to moderator by some pedophile and now I just got promoted to administrator? Wow. Umh, so you claim to be who? User:Josephthelover and User:1234 but not the original author who claimed to be Djna? You know, no one's going to buy that it was the real Djna who wrote this. "I did NOT write that journal" I still don't know what journal you're talking about. Maybe the comment in Djna's LJ? Could you back up your statements with links? If he is, in fact, more obnoxious than you, I promise I won't revert the article again. (I moved your post down here, btw, hope you don't mind) ~ Krade 16:50, 21 Jul 2005 (UTC)

dont mind at all, links to some threads, umm, i will do a feedster search right now, never looked into it. I just know him from a few of his toronto posts trying to get people to join his watergun gang, encouraging harrassment of the homeless, see his profile. He was using that for attention orignaly. But I honestly didnt write the original entry, i only created the 1234 profile after i seen this, forgot my other password. The profiles here are not me, if they were all edits would have been from one or the other, there has got to be a way for you to find out. I be back with links if that is needed -1234

1234 resolved my confusion by admitting to being Jj88, so 1234 is now permanently banned just like Jj88. --Banbot talk to Banbot 23:54, 21 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Input needed

Come on people, what do we do about this? I'm tempted to revert back to my edit, for the lulz, but I'd like to make fun of the biggest moron, and I still don't know who that is. ~ Krade 21:41, 21 Jul 2005 (UTC)

• I'm not really sure what's going on as I refuse to read either article, but I am in favour of making fun of both morons.--hardvice (talk) 23:45, 21 Jul 2005 (UTC)
• More importantly, am I alone in thinking that Djna needs to send me n00dz? Also, if the "squirtgunning the homeless" thing is true, he is the clear victor in this conflict while Josephthelover remains a butt-hurt batshit insane retard.--hardvice (talk) 13:26, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Lame move trolling

Hey, I found that a normal user can undo a move. Handy. Just letting you guys know, just in case User:Djna or a sockpuppet decides to do some more lame trolling. It was probably Josephthelover pretending to be Djna again~ Krade 19:00, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)

• Kewl! --Lucky Pierre 20:38, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)

hoping this is how you leave comment entries.

This is the actual Djna (djna). No, you're not getting "n00dz"! I have tried to edit the entry so that it is blank.

encouraging josephthelover (aka: kingjoey, ilamatore, Djna - he loves me, what can I say....joey's facination with me has expanded so far that he is me) really isn't a good idea. We all have fun poking fun at each other - this guy takes it a bit far. He actually DID (well, I haven't been able to confirm this yet) email who he thought was my employer stating I was harassing and threatening him, etcetcetc.

Taking it way too far. When you take the internet drama and bring it into personal lives, you're crossing that unspoken line.

This kid needs to have his hands glued to his ass.

Retrieved from "http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Talk:Blank"

• Well, this article makes more fun of Joseph more than it makes fun of you, plus, we removed all the unfunny stuff about your job he wrote, so you shouldn't be too worried. If fact, that could only encourage him of trying to mess with æ, but Aussieintn knows how to deal with people like him. I have to say I'm a little biased against Joseph, mostly because he's unfunny and the time and because squirtgunning the homeless is A+. Did you actually read the article after it was rewritten? By the way, blanking pages is considered vandalism. ~ Krade 19:14, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Djna says: The link that I clicked showed it still in it's same old glory - with my work address (*ahem*cough*itsnotright*cough*) and all that other jazz. When you are the person that it is being written about by a person using an account using my name, I'm pretty sure it isn't considered vandalism. It's erasing identity theft, plagerism (sp), etc.

It should be, by all means, deleted. Seeing as how he (joseph) was writing in first person pretending to be me, posting my personal information. Nobody gives a shit about the name calling, least of all me - and posting a picture he has no property rights of, etcetc.

But I checked all the previous edits. One was hilarious when it was turned back on joseph about him losing his mind and declaring all out war. Unfortunately, he has lost his mind and his "war" has expanded outside the internet.

• I'm pretty sure this article (Used an external link just to make sure) doesn't have your work address. It still has that stuff about Joseph declaring war on you. You may have to refresh the page if you're using a proxy, try CTRL+F5 for a forced refresh. ~ Krade 19:33, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)
• No n00dz at all? Howabout just a pouty expression? Srsly, though, inclined as I am to side with you since Joseph is such a cockbite, we can't let you (or anybody else) blank pages and get away with it. The whole point of having a vandalism policy, other than seeking to increase the lulz, is to keep the whol site from degenerating into chaos. The current (protected) version does not have any of your info (false or otherwise), and rest assured that Joseph will be dealt with on sight, now that he's sufficiently pissed off Banbot.--hardvice (talk) 19:40, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Djna says: (haven't figured out this commenting thing yet)Alright - no blanking pages. Now how can an entries edit history be removed where all the information is still accessable! And just ban joey and all his accounts (pretty much anything that slightly resembles me)....it's all the rave on livejournal. That guy has 3-4 user names banned from at LEAST a dozen communities, etc.

People now see his name and they just ban him. But he really can be good for a laugh now and again, can't he? Trust me - the novelty effect wears off.

• No one can delete history entries, that's the way a wiki works. Look at the history of Cracky-chan or at this edit, which is possibly the only funny edit in that other unfunny wiki, for example. I doubt anyone other than Joseph dives into the history to look at it, but if you're that worried that someone might see your personal info, you could try to ask an admin. I doubt they'll take the time to do that, however. (Bothering Aussieintn results in a ban, botherting Girlvinyl results in a ban at the application level.) Btw, you can press that button that looks like a signature on the toolbar or just type ~~~~ to sign your comments. ~ Krade 20:10, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)

that's better (sig). So ED is just one big copyright infringement? They won't delete content posted by users who have no rights to the content and if you request to have it taken down you are banned? That doesn't add up. Either way, I am now removing my picture. Sorry guys, but this is just idiocy. If it was funny, I'd laugh, but it's just annoying. Fly buzzing around your head kind of annoying.

But great fun seeing joey finally admit I've never harassed him. Especially since he's spent MONTHS threatening to press charges against me. Everytime his dad is on the phone with some officer pressing the charges. --Djna 20:30, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)

edit....scratch that. looks like it can't be editted anymore.

• By that point of view, Wikipedia is the biggest copyright infringment in the whole world. This isn't LiveJournal, you can't delete stuff just because you feel like it and you certainly can't whine to LJ Abuse every time a bully calls you names. Remember, posting your phone number on the Internet isn't illegal (your phone number isn't a copyrighted work). If you think it is, maybe you're mistaking the LJ TOS for the real law and you need to get out more often. Nevertheless, we deleted your personal info just after the original article was posted, even though we didn't have to, so I suggest you stop whining. About the picture, this is a parody, so your picture falls under the category of fair use. Also, the same picture is available in your LJ, so I don't know what your problem is. Under the US law, the only way to legally ask for copyrighted works to be taken down is by filling a DCMA form. However, nothing on the article is copyrighted by you, so you're out of luck. I'm trying to be nice here, and I was even inclined to side with you, since Joseph is such a troll, but you're getting more and more annoying with your E-lawyer bullshit. First of all, I recommend you find out what a Wiki is before accusing us of anything and then go and read something about Copyright laws. ~ Krade 20:57, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)

point blank - you know it - I know it - everyone knows it. You cannot claim to be another person online. I don't know the terminology but that is illegal. You cannot post pictures anywhere unless you have verbal or written consent of release. These are the basics. I shouldn't even have to point out that fact.

either way. like I said. it doesn't bug me. notice I don't give a shit about the gay part. it's funny. but the fact that SERIOUS personal information is posted in the history is a BIG problem. So all I'm saying is the history needs to go! --Djna 21:08, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)

• Let me say this really slow: This is not LiveJournal. This is a wiki. No one can delete history. A couple of replies above, I linked you to an archived article on Wikipedia that claims President Bush likes to sodomize sheep. You must think you're more important than Bush, since no one can delete that piece of history, but you think you can come into here and claim for history to be deleted. That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. It's an archived version, for God's sake. That's like sending an email to Google asking them to delete the cached version of this article. For your sake, go learn what a wiki is and stop making up legal bullshit you know you're pulling that out of your ass. Seriously, if you keep bitching about that is illegal to cache articles, I'm pretty sure the only thing you'll get with that is to become the next victim of a Bantown BBQ. "I don't know the terminology but that is illegal." E-lawyer alert! God, I hate dumb people who think LiveJournal is the Internet. ~ Krade 21:33, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)

alright. seeing as how you are so confident that there is no problem with having personal (address, phone number, etc) information displayed for everyone in the world to see. post yours. post your families. I am making a simple request. If it isn't possible - how the hell am I supposed to know that? Do I look like a regular here? Welcome to this guys DAY 1!!! Where the hell do you get the attitude? I think I'd have right to be pissed off. I'd think you'd agree. But instead you just start this shit. Hey Joey....meet this guy. Have fun. --Djna 21:43, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)

• No, If you remember correctly, I was on your side before you started *demanding* stuff instead of asking. And no, you don't look like a regular, that's why I asked you to search for information about wikis, I even linked you to the the most popular one, Wikipedia (I don't know about anyone who has been on the Internet for more than 6 months and never heard of Wikipedia, but ok) We did delete your personal info, in fact, I was the one who deleted it and rewrote that article in the first place, after Joseph posted it. It was you going in here and started demanding stuff like you own this place that kinda ticked me off. Of course we all know Joseph sucks, but that E-lawyer "That is illegal, I will sue" attitude is not very nice. Then again, it must be me who sucks at explaining stuff, I'm glad you could understand Hardvice's explanation. ~ Krade 22:04, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)
• As far as I know, there's no way to delete history items short of the programming level (and maybe not even then). I would gladly do that if I could (even without n00dz), but I can't. The accounts open in your name by Joseph (at least any that use enough of your name to identify you) are all banned, and again as best as I know there's no way to delete them, either. As for likeness rights, which is what I think you are aiming for, they generally only apply to broadcast media and in any case are not infringed by using material you voluntarily released yourself (like this photo). The photographer would have copyright to the image, but our use almost certainly falls under U.S. copyright law's fair use provisions, and American courts won't enforce judgments from jurisidictions like Canadia that don't have fair use provisions. You're almost certainly better off leaving well enough alone. It might not hurt to ask Girlvinyl if there's any way to delete the history items, but I doubt it's possible.--hardvice (talk) 21:29, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)

that's cool - then well enough alone will be left. I love the Canadia typo (although it was probably on purpose). I'd still really like to see that shit gone. But hey. Krade, you're funnier than this one - but this one is better at the answer game.

• I was trying to be helpful, not funny. And yup, that's the correct spelling of Canadia.--hardvice (talk) 21:44, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)

helpful you were. thanks.

can I get a synoposis of what's going on here

really --Lucky Pierre 20:38, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)

• Josephthelover, using several sockpuppets accounts, writes a stupid article about Djna with stuff like his work address, phone number and IP address. The article is completely rewritten to make fun of Josephthelover instead by ED editors. Josephthelover whines that he wasn't the person who originally wrote the article and claims that he only "played around with it a little". Aussieintn bans Josephthelover, end of chapter one. Today, the real Djna vandalizes the page, even though his personal information wasn't there anymore. He thinks a wiki is some sort of a LiveJournal and fails to understand history is not the actual article. He also fails to grasp the concept that history cannot be deleted by anyone, even after I linked him to an archive of an article on Wikipedia where it says that Bush likes to sodomize sheep. He's currently mistaking the LJ TOS for the real US law, since he claims that we need to delete the article and the history of the article because he didn't gave us permission. He's now also bitching that we don't have the right to use his picture, because he rewrote the copyright law, and it seems that fair use doesn't apply to him. That's pretty much it, besides the fact he doesn't know anything about real copyright law, he also doesn't know what a wiki is. ~ Krade 21:15, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Sure. I am Djna. I'm sure you have about 20 accounts with some variation of my name by now taking into this characters obsession with me. (josephthelover, 1234, jj68, jj88 or whatever he's posting on here as). He created my "bio". Unfortunately, it contains a great deal of personal information. When I deleted it, I was told that I was "vandalizing". All I'm doing is removing content that pertains directly to me.

One of the guys was nice enough to lock the page so that it can't be editted anymore but the history is still there. The history or the whole account needs to be removed. Due to the fact that if you post using an "oldid" you can still post to history archive.

If my picture could also be removed, as I did not authorize it to be posted. If all accounts using my name could be deleted, as they aren't ME! And also if you could put some gum in joey's hair while he's not looking, I'll buy you a drink. --Djna 21:03, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Recreated article

Much improved. That should solve everything.--hardvice (talk) 04:20, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC)

• ...except Krade being a 'tard and not learning to SHUT THE HELL UP. --Banbot talk to Banbot 04:24, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Cleanup

Cleaning up ancient articles, and there are some format errors on this page... think it's safe to unlock yet? :D Dianoga 22:46, 17 December 2007 (CST)