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LEAVE the name spaced for Google count. This page is going to be epic. Hilarity ensues Weatherman 19:42, 9 July 2007 (CDT)

MOAR

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[edit] OK GREAT START but needs MOAR !

needs moar =) Weatherman 22:41, 9 July 2007 (CDT)

I don't get the support for these kids on youtube anyway, I mean you have to be a pedophile to watch them. Sometimes I accidently stumble upon a stupid eerie little kid on youtube and always click em away right away, I can't help but get freaked out by them. They scare me. I don't even wanna see them let alone support them. Kids need to gtfo off youtube and the internets. --Divx-Mongool 07:52, 11 July 2007 (CDT)

Divx-Mongool: COMPLETELY FUCKING AGREE. if you want you should join me for a little project. basically, it consists of calling up fox news etc. Yeah, i've seen kids here and there - and thought galipoka was half-way hilarious. nevertheless, when you start subing to kids and favoriting their videos - something is really wrong Weatherman 12:11, 11 July 2007 (CDT)
I just got around to actually looking at this last night, and it is severely creepy. Let me know when they start inviting the kids to the Young Tubers United Con, or something similarly OBVS PEDO. KEKEKETalk to me Listen to me. 12:49, 11 July 2007 (CDT)

[edit] VARIOUS, BIZARRE, CONFUSING, POINTLES ------>>>>>>>>>>DRAMA



WTF>?


LOL LOL LOL OMG GGGGGGGG LOL LOL LOL VK411 ATTACKS!!!!!!!!!!

[edit] MOAR DRAMA

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GROSS

ok ?

[edit] If and when over the rainbow

If that fat guy with the talking vagina on his face in the bottom video you posted isn't a gay NAMBLA pedophile then I will eat my hat. PS btw Nice Catholic choir boy hairdo on the boy in the first video. --Divx-Mongool 12:51, 11 July 2007 (CDT)

Who ever wrote that UpDownmostly is buttbuddy's with Irish282 is absolutely right, I checked it out and they post shit to eachother etc. You don't have to be a pedophile to see why they are interested in Jesse so much, I wonder if they would have cared two squirts of piss about that boy if he didn't have this modelly look, his dad wants his little cashcow to make him money to support his meth-habit and apparantly he doesn't give a fuck who he has to pose with on 7-7 pictures, go to meetings (while banninated even) or get fucked up the ass by some maniac. This shit makes me sick to my stumic. Pro-tip: A pedophile holocaust (Confirm/deny)? And people wonder why they banned Jessi, kids like these with pedophiles flocking around them are a lawsuit waiting to happen. 18 year old jessy: "YOUTUBE AND MY FATHER MADE SICK MEN FUCK ME UP THE POOPER, JUDGE!!!!" Viacom 2: Jessi the grown up kid. Either that or another Jonbonet Ramsey in boyform.--Divx-Mongool 19:34, 11 July 2007 (CDT)

[edit] Lurlene goes out with style

Image:Lurlenestyle.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KL-IY4p9R0 --Divx-Mongool 20:03, 17 July 2007 (CDT)

[edit] Y M C A 's

Jesse's dad pimping out his son to pedophile UpDownmolesty Tim on the 777 New York NAMBLA meeting.
Jesse's dad pimping out his son to pedophile UpDownmolesty Tim on the 777 New York NAMBLA meeting.
UpDownMostly and Jesse at the NAMBLA convention after-party
UpDownMostly and Jesse at the NAMBLA convention after-party
UpDownmolesty rubbing his nipples for a young boy.
UpDownmolesty rubbing his nipples for a young boy.
Tiny tim.
Tiny tim.


Tim loves boy ass.
Tim loves boy ass.

Weatherman 08:19, 19 July 2007 (CDT)

HAHAHAHAHAHA TIM DOESN'T WANT PEOPLE TO SEE HOW FAT HE IS HAHAHAHAHA HE LEFT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA OMG LULZ ON TAP!!!1111 --Divx-Mongool 09:51, 19 July 2007 (CDT)

[edit] Any way we can get the UpDownMolesty pics back?

Any way we can get the UpDownMolesty pics back? I always thought that ED was unsueable? Maybe a stupid question but someone fill me in plz. Is there a way around it? --Divx-Mongool 17:47, 19 July 2007 (CDT)

I recently found this tool to make charicatures out of pictures, so they basically become drawings, if I threw those updownmolestly pictures trough that would it then become legal? Because I think without these fat and other pictas of him the page is truly deprived from 55% of it's original lulz. --Divx-Mongool 18:41, 19 July 2007 (CDT)


If you believe the DMCA was submitted erroneously and you feel the images should remain, you will need to submit a DMCA counter notification to abuse @ encyclopediadramatica.com, they will instruct you on your rights and further information. --girlvinyl 22:16, 31 July 2007 (CDT)

Since when does ED give in to such requests? I thought ED was above that. Isn't it hosted in like Russia or Ukraine or something???? --Divx-Mongool 07:03, 1 August 2007 (CDT)

[edit] wrong info removed

Charles Dagley isn't Jesse's Dad...it's the kid from hypnoticproductionz...Irish282's long time butt-buddy...he registered the youngtubers.com site for them

Tim's info was removed too...it's here on these DMCA'd images if anybody needs it

--subseven 21:35, 20 August 2007 (CDT)

[edit] I heard that yeah

I am really anxious to know who that guy is, that charly dude. Is it a pedo posting skateboard shit? Why did he register youngtube vigilante, youngtubers etc, all those domains are under his name???? questions questions questions.... I need answers. --Divx-Mongool 17:27, 31 August 2007 (CDT)

  • Here's the answers: Remember the shirtless boy in Irish's video "Nuttin for Christmas"?...THAT's Charles Dagley...Charles has grown up to be an amateur webpage designer...he's Irish's old flame, and does all of Irish's webbernets for him, even the violin-selling website....when Irish needed a website to spearhead his "I want 12-year-olds on YouTube" campaign, he had Charles set it up...hypnoticproductionz is Charles' website design company...he's also on YouTube: hypnoticproductionz, and was behind the vandalism done by User: The thing

--subseven 07:17, 4 September 2007 (CDT)

[edit] Jesari was offered his account back and he turned YouTube DOWN! ZOMG!!? CALL HIS SNAPVINE AND COMPLAIN NOW !!! FOR GREAT JUSTICE [1]

SHOCKING NEWS: Jesari was offered his account back and he turned YouTube DOWN! ZOMG!!? CALL HIS SNAPVINE AND COMPLAIN NOW !!! FOR GREAT JUSTICE [2]

[edit] moar

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[edit] pedophile insider

Trust me, NAMBLA has a pedophile insider in the tubes. My guess is it's Damien. --Divx-Mongool 10:52, 26 September 2007 (CDT)

[edit] FATMAN PICTJOERS

So are fatman pictures allowed again? won't they be DMCA'd? if not i'll post 300 of them shooped and all with cocks in his fat mouth.--Divx-Mongool 20:01, 12 October 2007 (CDT)

[edit] OLD TUBERS DIVIDED OVER SHIRTLESS BOYS

Editorial: YouTube: Pedophile Playground
by R.J. Carter
Published: January 28, 2008

The world became a smaller place with the advent of online social
networking. It is becoming almost what Marshall McLuhan, among others,
predicted: an internationally networked community, a global village, where
human interaction can be virtually instantaneous, and can take the form of
text exchanges on message boards, pictures, voice, music, and video. At its
best, the medium itself approaches something akin to the rudimentary
projection of consciousness -- a new means of expression, a very immediate
and even intimate touching of personalities.

Take MySpace, for example.

Reclaiming MySpace

MySpace pages are simple to construct and navigate -- so simple, even a
child can design one. And millions of children do, with many thousands of
those children loosely- or unsupervised and vulnerable. And wherever there
are unsupervised and vulnerable children, there are child predators,
pederasts and youth fetishists, who seek to psychologically manipulate and
sexually exploit those children. Before the Internet, before chatrooms and
webcams and IRCs, these were the depraved and obsessed and child-fixated
adults who sought contact with children on real world playgrounds and
schoolyards and kids' clubs and churches. Now, they gravitate online, drawn
like jackals to the herd, looking for the helpless, the wounded and alone.
The pedophile problem on MySpace became pervasive -- so prevalent parents
were pulling their children off MySpace and complaining loudly to law
enforcement and lawmakers.

To address increasing public alarm -- as well as to quell bad publicity --  
MySpace then partnered with a company called Sentry Tech, developed a new
technology, and named it SentinelSAFE -- a system aggregating the various
sex offender registries into one place, against which MySpace could verify
its users. MySpace then lobbied lawmakers for email registration legislation
requiring all sex offenders to register any and all of their email addresses
when registering their physical address, with a penalty of 10 to 20 years
imprisonment if violated.

For the most part, active MySpace pedophiles seeking out contact with
children moved on, to safer ground, away from the spotlight of public -- and
law enforcement -- attention. Many predators found an online home on other
sites.

YouTube: The Pedophile Stealth Market

While MySpace was being conceived and constructed, another idea was taking
root -- a place of social networking that was centered around the concept of
sharing video files. Ostensibly, the videos were supposed to be ones owned
and created by the YouTube user, but anyone could see the opportunity for
the distribution of copyrighted material, and soon duplicated versions of
television shows were making the circuit, being uploaded almost as quickly
as YouTube could take them down.

The traffic on YouTube exploded beyond expectations, quickly outpacing other
social sites online. By October 2006, Google (NASDAQ: GOOG) decided they
liked it so well enough to buy it. But there was supposition in some corners
that YouTube had cheated to gain their rank, with one commentator, posting
only as James, pointing out a shocking possibility for YouTube's growth.

"YouTube is currently the premier distributor for what is arguably soft
child porn," writes James. "Newsgroups on YouTube have been organized
expressly for pedophiles, by pedophiles, to share information on the latest
soft child porn videos uploaded to YouTube. Kids from just under 18, all the
way to toddler age, routinely upload video's of 'strip teases' that seem
tailor made for pedophiles, and YouTube allows many to stay up on their
site.

"It's the law of supply and demand," writes James. "Child porn is presumably
hard to obtain, and YouTube's offering of 'soft' child porn is the best of
both worlds for them, in that they can watch a 10 year old engage in a strip
tease down to her underwear, dancing to 'My Humps,' or worse, and it's
approved by YouTube. Call them their 'stealth subscribers.' They really run
up the repetitive viewhits, they are all over YouTube, and have been since
the beginning."

Pandering to pedophiles as an emerging stealth market cannot have been
integral to the vision of YouTube founders Chad Hurley and Steve Chen, nor
could anyone have expected the pedophile presence on YouTube to be so brazen
and pervasive. Seriously, someone can't just create a profile and say,
"Hello, I'm a pedophile. Let's chat." Right?

Astonishingly, yes, pedophiles can and yes, pedophiles do. With the ability
to send public and private messages to 'Tubers, as well as the ability for
children to create and upload their own Video Log (or 'vlog'), YouTube has
become a haven for pedophiles to initiate contact and groom future victims.
And the ghastly thing about it is that they're not even being all that
discreet about it, with some of them proclaiming outright their pedophilia
and defending it as some form of free speech.

Pedophiles R Us

"Most of the time I'm with boys there is no sexual involvement," writes
YouTube user Myidisphat. The message is in a string of conversation
following the posting of a video in which the user uses the computer game
"Halo 3" to spell out "I 'heart' Little Boys" with pieces of digital
shrapnel. "They think I'm cool as hell because I do crazy shit all the time.
Of course they love to ruff play." Myidisphat follows up his statement,
saying, "I'm not saying there is sexual involvement, but I'm not saying
there isn't."

Please Understand. YouTube user Myidisphat makes his case.
Like many vocal pedophiles on YouTube, Myidisphat touts pedophilia as a
matter of freedom of expression. "I think that boy lovers are the most open
minded people of this earth," he writes. "We are extremely caring. Your
children would tell us things that they would never tell you. We are better
than any parent with children." His video work draws, as one might expect, a
great amount of irate comments, but Myidisphat also attracts his share of
admirers, getting compliments from such users like draconis121, and counts
among his friends (in YouTube parlance, a friend is someone who has sent you
a request to be officially connected to your channel) sixteen-year-old
fatherxxasmodeus and 2akopilag, a "Young Tuber" with a collection of videos
by a boy named Jaeger.

Contrast Myidisphat with YouTube user WMCritest, whose real identity is
publicly known. WMCritest, aka Dr. Nigel Leigh Oldfield, is a former science
teacher. Outwardly charming, urbane and eloquent, he also has an arrest
record for possession of child pornography. Oldfield was taken into custody
in August of 2002 when he was spotted taking pictures of children at a
shopping mall. Further police investigation turned up over 11,000 images of
child pornography on his home computer. He served eight months for
possession, and is now a crusader for pedophilia and its many forms as a
form of free speech. He even links to his Website, a compendium of articles
that support his theories on psychosexuality, as well as a documentation of
his struggles with the legal system. His YouTube channel contains a series
of text-show videos in which he holds forth on topics of interest for the
Minor-Attracted Adult, a term created to bury the stigma attached to the
term pedophile. "Part of my sexuality is that of a MAA, yes," says Dr.
Oldfield in the comments to one of his videos. "Indeed, I am not a
paedophile, by the correct definition. If I was, I would admit it... as
there is no problem in having a clinical condition, per se."

Children as Victims, Children as Weapons

In August, 2006, user troyriser joined YouTube to upload videos of himself
and his children to share with friends and family. When comments were left
by pedophiles regarding a video of his boxer son jumping rope, Troy followed
the subscription and friend listing trail of those pedophiles to
YoungTubersUnited, a for-profit children's video-making organization with
over 6,000 members worldwide, with both a YouTube channel,
youngtubersunited2, and an independent website -- an organization vying for
corporate sponsorship from Nike and CBS, and for admission into YouTube's
partnership program.

As Riser delved further, he started expressing concerns about the lack of
fundamental safeguards. "I began questioning the motives of the YTU's most
enthusiastic -- and most vociferous -- adult supporters, all of whom were
anonymous and most of whom were apparently adult, single males," says Riser.
"I received nothing but evasion, obfuscation, silence, and outright lies,
both from its supporters and from documented agents of YTU, including
YouTube user Irish282."

Extortion. Anonymous YouTube user.
The controversy escalated after Riser made a series of videos dealing with
the subject of YouTube pedophiles, which has resulted in a sustained and
coordinated harassment campaign culminating in an extortion and child
endangerment investigation by federal and state law enforcement. Currently,
he has had at least seven channels dedicated to expressing hatred for him,
with another dozen videos devoted to discrediting and vilifying him. Two of
these openly display the address of his 14 year old son, his son's school,
and his son's activity center, with an explicit message for people to come
and visit him -- as well as the threat to shut down his channel and delete
his videos or more channels will appear, each more outrageous and
threatening than the last, with the next featuring his teenage daughter.

The pedophile extortionist writes, "Just so you know Troy. I'm not leaving.
I will keep making these channels until you are gone. If Evil men Harm Jake
like your bulletin claims. That will be on your head. Close your channel if
you care about your son and the channel comes down. This should be apparent
to everyone you don't love your son.Well, not in a fatherly way." One such
account featuring his son, along with photos and contact and address
information, was active for over a week before YouTube finally suspended
activity. Before the day was out, another account was back up with the same
information. "As long as Troy is here, so will these channels," the user
states.

Following the advice of the authorities, Troy Riser has no intention of
acceding to the demands of online predators, no matter how organized,
cohesive, or ruthless. His response to the threats aimed at him and his
family is unprintable here.

YoungTubersUnited

Do a Google search on YoungTubersUnited, and you'll quickly find a number of
support videos demanding its return. Here was a channel that young kids were
flocking to, a groundswell movement that was getting kids interested in
video production. The fan base for the channel, featuring videos starring
and created by kids, was enormous.

Unfortunately, so was the temptation, as not all of the subscribers were
kids, but rather adults -- which in and of itself is not all that unsavory.
But the opportunity for pedophile poaching proved irresistible to some
YouTube users, and the subscriber list for the channel included such entries
as BigCD2002, a regular of the BoyMoment website, where he boasted of
grooming an eleven-year-old.

Oops! When supporting a kids'
movement, it's unwise to wear a
shirt sporting the logo recognized
by the FBI as the universal symbol
for BoyLovers.
When YouTube suspended the account (officially because the users violated
YouTube's Terms of Service agreement -- they were under 13, although the
channel was officially registered in an adult's name), many of the support
videos that sprung up in the wake came from sources that wouldn't exactly be
considered caring adults. YouTube user TobiranHorde made a vlog expressing
his support for the return of the channel; unfortunately for TobiranHorde,
he made the video while wearing the t-shirt emblazoned with the universal
BoyLover logo. Oops.

YouTube. YouPolice?

YouTube has a handful of methods for users to report, or 'flag,' a user's
channel whenever they view a violation of YouTube's policies -- copyright
infringement, trademark infringement, adult video, and the like. However, it
takes time to process the flags, and the subjective decisions often leave
one scratching their head as to how YouTube thinks.

But things may change soon. MySpace's SentinelSAFE is licensable to other
social networking sites, and Google is at least considering taking a step in
a corrective direction. "We are supportive of the concept of industry,
advocacy groups, and the Attorneys' General sitting down and working through
the feasibility of age verification," says a Google spokesperson of the
MySpace model. "We are currently studying the proposal."

YouTube is caught between the horns of a dilemma, of course. A drastic,
dramatic change in YouTube corporate culture that brings about an end to the
pedophile presence permeating the site would entail an enormous risk in
terms of both publicity and profitability. By looking the other way, by
ignoring the problem altogether and leaving the flagging and reporting of
pedophiles to concerned members of the YouTube user community, YouTube
absolves itself of corporate responsibility for the problem. On the other
hand, if YouTube takes a proactive stance and initiates steps to acknowledge
and address the problem, then YouTube is suddenly, fully, legally
accountable -- leaving itself vulnerable to litigation resulting from harm
to a child using its services. So YouTube studies proposals, hoping beyond
hope, no doubt, the pedophile problem will magically resolve itself.

The pedophiles know this, of course. So YouTube has become a hunting ground
for many of them, in a very real sense. Law enforcement, for its part, is
stretched thin; the FBI, Interpol, and so on, are in the middle of a war on
terror. Their first concern, rightfully so, is a global jihad intent on
blowing up thousands of people.

Meanwhile, online predators on YouTube continue initiating contact with
children, telling those children how smart they are or how cool they are or
how pretty or handsome or fun they are, seeking out those vulnerable or
lonely or impressionable children whose parents don't know or don't care
with whom their child is interacting online, even though some of those men
and women resemble nothing so much as wild dogs bringing down a deer.

Of course, the first and best line of defense always starts in the home.
It's not only important for parents to monitor their children's Internet
usage, but also to engage them in dialogue about who they're networked to,
and why. Explain to them that they should only connect to people they
already know, and that they should contact you immediately if any anonymous
user insists on getting them into an IM or chat session -- and never, ever,
reveal personally identifying information. And if your children ask you why,
suck it up and tell them.

Because we've told our children there are no such things as monsters.
Sockchan 09:25, 2 February 2008 (CST)
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