User:Tanja

Tanja

You asumed in the the comment that I posted that I was talking about a girl that goes
around  and has sex with every guy; basicly she is like a door knob, everyone gets a turn.
In that case, than she would be made fun of weather or not she ever got pregnant. I am
talking about a girl who either only has sex with one guy or who has been raped. Neither
one of these girls is easy, but if they were preganant, they people would think that 
they were. This would be sad, espcially for the girl who got raped who had no control.
Having an abortion would just be getting rid of an unwanted ball of multiplying cells.
Getting rid of a fetus that does not have a concisness is like getting rid of an 
unwanted wart. 
A fetus is part of the woman just like the wart is, and therefore a woman can 
have both removed if they are unwanted. Part of freedom is allowing people to 
do what they want, and allowing people to do what they want with their bodies
is part of freedom, which makes abortion freedom.

ChipWhitley274

That is the defenition of easy. If someone got pregnant with one guy she
would not be considered easy.

Tanja

The fetus is still inside the woman and so she has a right to have an abortion. 
It is the same as if I climbed on top of your sholders, even though I am a part 
of you, you would still have a right to have me get off of you.

ChipWhitley274

Like I said before being made fun of is a sorry excuse for murder. Also the unborn 
baby is human and the mother is simply the life support so it is nothing like a wart
because the baby is not actually apart of the mother (just attached).

Tanja

The text with the quotes around it was written by Chip and is being quoted back by Tatjana.
"I'm sorry did you just try to insult me by calling me autistic? What a dark 
heart you have that you can claim that as a negative thing. Did you make fun 
of nerds in high school? Or are you in high school now? This further validates
my point that you are desperate enough for a response that you would go for 
the insult instead of making an intelligent and mature point."
I am trying to do my best to explain to you why it is that banning abortion is 
wrong. You really cross a line when you say or imply that a killing a girl is 
better than killing a fetus. I am telling you without getting upset why that 
idea is wrong, there really is somthing wrong with thinking that a fetus is
more important than a girl. I tryed to limit any offensiveness when I said 
you are Autistic.
"Do you feel that being inside a woman is somehow through a magic portal
and not of this world? It is apart of this world just located in a specific 
place. That is like saying if you are in a house you are not apart of the 
world. I certainly feel that an innocent baby is more important than a murdering 
girl. As I have said before "You logic is warped if you are basing the 
importance of life on age and not actions committed." "
I do not think that the vagina is in anyway a magic portal into the world. I
know that until the fetus passes through it, the fetus is not born. I do not
base life importance on age, but I view everyone equally. Even than, it really 
is wrong to think that an unborn fetus is more important than an existing person.
"By the way, I have Asperger's which is on the autism spectrum but generally
considered different than actual autism as it is similar (yet not the same) 
to High Functioning Autism. That was a good guess though. However I am very 
proud and happy to be an Aspie. In my opinion the benefits of AS outweighs 
the disadvantages (which actually can be corrected anyway). So I feel that I 
am better off than those of you who are Neuro typical."
Being Autistic is definitly worse than being normal. Through experience I
have learned that happiness does not come through Xbox or TV, but through 
social interaction. People that are Autistic have no ability to interact 
socialy and therefore end up being anti social and having other problems. 
It is Autistic people that are generally involved in anti social behaviors 
such as rape and murder. The boy who killed 30 people at Virginia Tech was
Autistic. Maybe I could be wrong about some of this, it was Asspies that 
did some of the worst things to me. I try not to let that get in the way 
of allowing me to be objective though.
I have this to say about abortion; a fetus is not yet a person, it develops 
into a person. A fetus becomes a person the same way a seed becomes a tree. 
Would you say that a seed is a tree?

ChipWhitley274

You really should not make any statements about things you don't understand...
It just makes you look foolish and in this case a horrible person. If you are 
idiotic enough to generalize Aspie's lives as nothing but X-Box and TV I am
embarrassed for you.
"People that are Autistic have no ability to interact socially" That is only 
correct for LOW Functioning Autistics. Do you understand what High Functioning
Autism means? It means we are able to more or less be normal. It is difficult 
to be social because HFA cannot learn social queues intuitively like the average
person but they CAN learn them intellectually.
I am confused because your total lack of heart in your mindless assumptions 
that those with Autism cannot be functional sounds like you are referring to 
the Fully Autistic which cannot speak and have to be cared for their whole lives,
yet you refer to an ability to Play X-Box which would be difficulty unless they
were HFA in which case if you were actually referring to HFA your comments 
would be blindly hateful.
Now I am NOT considered Autistic because I have Asperger's. This is similar to
HFA however a main difference is that Aspie's typically desire to be social when
HFA typically don't. Because I had an initial difficult time with social 
interaction I had to learn it intellectually and I can guarantee you that I 
understand much more about social interaction than the average person could
ever learn intuitively. They have never had a disadvantage so never realized 
they needed to "fix" anything. They are able to get along in life just fine but 
are not the best they can be. I however am much more socially competent then 
you or any of them have ever been and I have the ability to apply this knowledge
so effectively I can talk to literally anyone and they will be entertained. 
I used to not be able to talk to girls and if I did I got no where and was 
just embarrassed. Now I can talk to any one of them I want no matter how 
attractive and have long talks where they do not want it to end and are 
disappointed when I have to go. I get about 80% of their numbers
and have dated many.
What Aspies naturally have that Neuro Typical people like yourself can 
never have is our extreme intelligence. I can learn more thoroughly and 
more completely any subject I am interested in then you could ever hope
to. This means we get the most high paying engineering, mathematical, 
scientific, computing (hardware, software etc.) etc jobs in the world 
because we comprehend the complex and difficult areas with ease which 
requires no patients or willpower.
With my natural intelligence and my new mastery of social interaction I 
am 100% sure that I am more satisfied and happy than you. As I said before
I AM proud to be an Aspie because I am superior to you in every way and
not just in some areas like it used to be. I would not trade my life for
yours any day.
I recommend reading about it before you embarrass yourself saying the 
most unintelligent nonsense that show you as the hateful fool you come 
off as.

Tanja

"You really should not make any statements about things you don't understand...
It just makes you look foolish and in this case a horrible person. If you 
are idiotic enough to generalize Aspie's lives as nothing but X-Box and TV 
I am embarrassed for you."
I understand Autism, I went to a camp where I met my boyfriend Willie, 
where there were many Asspies. He saw more of them than I did because the 
boys were mostly seperated from the girls, but I have seen what Asspies do. 
Also, you are not as intelligent as you claim because when I was talking 
about Xbox and TV I was saying that those things do not create happiness, 
it is social interaction that creates happiness.
""People that are Autistic have no ability to interact socially" That is 
only correct for LOW Functioning Autistics. Do you understand what High 
Functioning Autism means? It means we are able to more or less be normal. 
It is difficult to be social because HFA cannot learn social queues 
intuitively like the average person but they CAN learn them intellectually."
I have read about Autism because I wanted to be educated about it before 
I made conclusions about Asspies based on my experiences. HF Asspies are 
more intelligent than LF Asspies, but neither are normal. I have seen HF 
Asspies in school and they are definitly not normal. They may be intelligent 
enough to learn that flapping their hands will make them a retard and 
therefore do not do it; but they still appear obviously Autistic. They 
still have the typical Asspie accent and no matter how much they learn 
about social interactions, they will still hold false beliefs about the
world and still have an outburst once in a while.
"I am confused because your total lack of heart in your mindless 
assumptions that those with Autism cannot be functional sounds like 
you are referring to the Fully Autistic which cannot speak and have 
to be cared for their whole lives, yet you refer to an ability to Play 
X-Box which would be difficulty unless they were HFA in which case if 
you were actually referring to HFA your comments would be blindly hateful."
I do not understand what this says at all, more evidence that you are
not as socially competent as you claim. I know that many Asspies are 
retarded, but not all of them are. I am not trying to say that they are
all retarded. The only thing I said about Xbox is that it does not
create happiness, social interaction creates happiness
"Now I am NOT considered Autistic because I have Asperger's. This is 
similar to HFA however a main difference is that Aspie's typically desire 
to be social when HFA typically don't. Because I had an initial difficult
time with social interaction I had to learn it intellectually and I can 
guarantee you that I understand much more about social interaction than 
the average person could ever learn intuitively. They have never had a 
disadvantage so never realized they needed to "fix" anything. They are 
able to get along in life just fine but are not the best they can be. I 
however am much more socially competent then you or any of them have ever
been and I have the ability to apply this knowledge so effectively I can
talk to literally anyone and they will be entertained. I used to not be 
able to talk to girls and if I did I got no where and was just embarrassed. 
Now I can talk to any one of them I want no matter how attractive and have 
long talks where they do not want it to end and are disappointed when I have
to go. I get about 80% of their numbers and have dated many."
You have learned to do the simple instinctive things involved with 
social interaction. Everyone else who is normal who already knows how to
interact with normal people interact better with each other because they 
do not perfectly know every social rule and so they have moar randomness
which is less boring. since you have memorized every social rule, you 
apply them strictly and have truble breaking away effectivly. The effect
is boring repitition which many Asspies have. I would not even consider
being with you even if you were the last man on Earth; if I did, I would
be a pedofile, LULZ. The only reason why girls want to talk to you at all
is because they can tell that you are an Asspie and they want to try to
make you feel normal, or sometimes girls like to tease Asspies and pretend
to be intrested in them. This is what is happening to you. How long is the
longest time you had a girlfrind? I have experience with talking to
Asspies, when I first came to the United States, a boy with HFA or
what ever the more normal Asspies are called began talking to me. I
wanted to be nice and pretend that I did not care that he was messed
up, and soon we started to be in a relationship until he harmed me.
Now I know not to pretend to like Asspies if one ever talks to me again.
"What Aspies naturally have that Neuro Typical people like yourself can 
never have is our extreme intelligence. I can learn more thoroughly and
more completely then you could ever hope to. This means we get the best
jobs in the world because we comprehend the complex and difficult areas
with ease which requires no patients or willpower."
You are very wrong. Normal people can have high intellience. Not Asspies,
they are mentally retarded or have normal intelligence and severe learning
disabilities. You do not get to have any good jobs because of your social
disabilities. This was told to me by (ElectricShark) who is an Asspie. I
also already knew it.
"With my natural intelligence and my new mastery of social interaction I
am 100% sure that I am more satisfied and happy than you. As I said before
I AM proud to be an Aspie because I am superior to you in every way and 
not just in some areas like it used to be. I would not trade my life for 
yours any day."
You are in extreme denile if you think that you interact well with other
people and are glad to be an Asspie. Being an Asspie is hell and you are
not superior to normal people. You can ask (ElectricShark). I would rather
not be born than be Autistic....

ChipWhitley274

"it is social interaction that creates happiness" 
You were implying that Aspies do things like watch TV or play X-Box 
instead of interacting socially. I know this because you sandwiched 
this statement between:
"Being Autistic is definitly worse than being normal.", and "People that 
are Autistic have no ability to interact socialy and therefore end up being
anti social and having other problems."
It is clear you were not making a general statement but indicating this
is what Aspies do, so do not try to back peddal.
"I do not understand what this says at all, more evidence that you are 
not as socially competent as you claim."
I am not deliberately using my social skills on you. Because I am conscious
of how to behave (instead of unconscious like the average person) I have
the ability to use it if I so desire or not if it is of no benefit to me 
at the time. I am not even attempting it on you because I have no need of
you to like me as you are clearly a horrible person. In ANY case my SOCIAL 
skills have nothing to do with my grammatical skills which are excellent,
so your lack of understanding actually displays YOUR ignorance of the 
English language. Also this further makes you seem foolish: "I know that
many Asspies are retarded". If a person is retarded they do not have AS,
they are simply retarded which is completely different. Do you even know
what retarded is? Aspies have above averages IQs so by definition if
someone has an IQ of only 80 then they do not have AS.
I never said that Aspies are not obvious when they have not taken steps
to change. You would not recognize them if they had proper social therapy,
and social training. I used to have these issues but no one can differentiate
me from any other average person except that I am actually more successful
socially than they are by default.
"I have read about Autism because I wanted to be educated"
I don't believe this statement. If this were true you would not
be making such grossly uneducated statements about them. If you
actually have been reading about it I would recommend working on
your reading comprehension or keep researching. Remember you actually
have to keep different subjects separate in your mind otherwise you
confuse different issues with each other which you so clearly have.
It is clear that you do not understand the differences between a
retarded person, an Aspie, Autistic, HFA, because you mix them up
and generalized them as if they are not completely different which 
they are.
By the way my intelligence has been officially tested. Every test
I have had thrown at me has passed at extremely high above average.
This has been achieved with NO studying or effort. Then I had my IQ 
tested several times and it is at 130 while the average person is
around 95-110. I have also utilized my intelligence in real interactions
and typically have not been bested.
Also my social interactions have been proved by results. As I mentioned
I used to be like all the other socially awkward Aspies and now people
only know if I tell them. I have as much success as I desire with both
making friends and establishing relationships with women. This is no
fluke or a few lucky numbers. I have about a 90% success rate with
anyone I choose to interact with to make friends, of those successful
interactions I have a pretty high success of getting numbers, or
actually arranging a future date right then and there.
In some cases where AS is more sever there may be some who may not have
as much success as I have that is understandable because not everyone
is the same (as you seen to think). I cannot make sweeping generalizations
about a type of people like you have, I would recommend that you not be so
close minded with you assumptions. However my opinion of MY specific
interactions and experiences are in fact positive, and I AM very happy,
because my success is real and not some illusion. I get to be far more
socially competent than most, and I am far more intelligent so I get the
best of both worlds. I pity you because unfortunately you cannot learn
how to have a high IQ, so you can only comprehend so much no matter how
much effort you put into it and this is all despite your natural average
social skills, if you have any because (though I do not expect you to display it)
I have yet to see your good side as well. Are you also not using your
social skills when you interact with me? I hope it is deliberate otherwise 
you are worse off than I ever was.
"You have learned to do the simple instinctive things involved with social
interaction. Everyone else who is normal who already knows how to interact
with normal people interact better with each other because they do not 
perfectly know every social rule and so they have moar randomness which is less boring."
That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. First I have learned
BOTH the simple instinctive things AND the complex as well which the average
person never knows to learn. They do not interact better because this simply
makes it so they are both successful AND makes the mistakes. The definition 
of better would be the one with fewer mistakes. So in fact they are interacting
WORSE. DO you understand English, maybe your lack of comprehension is not
the general inability to comprehend but that you are having difficulty
understanding what words mean.
I have mastered the art of being interesting so I doubt that being more
skilled makes things less boring. 
"if I did, I would be a pedofil"
This is only relevant to ACTUAL age not how old one acts.
"The only reason why girls want to talk to you at all is because
they can tell that you are an Asspie and they want to try to make you feel normal."
Really? Then why did they shun me BEFORE I applied my new knowledge.
Why is it that I actually go out with them, instead of them giving me
a pity number and then ignoring them? Why is it that I have slept
with many of them? Is this all sympathy? I have dated some for around 
2 years. One in particular was just over 3 years.
"Now I know not to pretend to like Asspies if one ever talks to me again."
I am surprised that you did not simply make this sweeping assumption to
all men, and become a lesbian. Because that is just as logical as this
statement. I do not understand how you can have an experience with one
Aspie and then assume they are all that way like they are animals.
There are normal people that are violent and there are Many Aspies
that are not. You are about the most assuming judgmental person I
have heard of. Are you also racist because you had a bad interaction
with an Asian or African American?
I said Neuro TYPICAL, that is another word for AVERAGE. Do I have to
keep educating you on word meanings? Neuro TYPICALS generally also have
an average IQ which means by definition they are not as intelligent. Our
IQs only vary about 5 points from birth (unless there has been damage
to the brain) so a normal person cannot change their IQ.
Again Aspies CANNOT be retarded otherwise they are by definition something
other than an Aspie. A high IQ is one prerequisite of having AS. It seems
you have actually NOT read a thing about Aspies or you are confusing AS
with something else. It is difficult to get NORMAL jobs but we are very
successful at the complicated jobs that people like you do not have the
mental capacity to do, and thus are paid more so are more successful.
Again go ahead and actually try to read about AS then come back to me as
if you know anything.
Is ElectricShark your source for all your information? Please actually do
some real research. ElectricShark sounds like he has given up on himself
(which can happen) and is just trying to claim that all others with AS are
in the same boat as he is. It seems HE is in denial and does not want to
admit that others are actually happy because they actually did something 
to improve themselves.
Though this is not the case even if I were blind and fooled that people 
are only interacting with me out of pity I am perceiving it as kindness and
thus happy because I am enjoying it. I could be in denial about how they
see me and treat me but I am not making up how I feel. You cannot tell me
what my emotions are giving me. Why would I need to ask ElectricShark? I have 
AS so I do not need to consult someone as if they are some authority on how all Aspies are.
He clearly has a bleak outlook and is too lazy to improve his situation so 
is making general negative and inaccurate generalizations like you. Also I
DO not other Aspies, some are unhappy but Most ARE happy.
I would hate to be born as unintelligent as you. I mean you cannot change
your low IQ so are stuck with your problem. My problem was difficult to
overcome but HAS been overcome so I AM superior to you. Everything you say
smacks of a Hate Crime waiting to happen. Please see a therapist about your