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--Sheneequa 05:25, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

See Jeff Goldblum is Watching You Poop. --Sheneequa 08:07, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Quick hint, so you reduce the amount of red links you make. Try putting the [[]] around the singular form, like [[midget]]s, and not around the plural, eg. [[midgets]]. The Tolkien edit was good though!-Ket 08:46, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

You can start an FFVI article, as long as it has lulz. --Sheneequa 22:20, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

You've been unbanned from the channel. --Sheneequa • Talk 01:55, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

• Thx!

Contents 1 Soft towel 2 ALL THAT PHP NAZI-JEW-HATE SHIT 3 Islam 4 ILU 5 op 6 Fark 7 Articles on banned/vandals 8 YOu know... 9 Holy shit!!!! 10 Double Helix 11 Forums

[edit] Soft towel

Have 4 free internets-Ket ^Refill/lol 05:52, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ALL THAT PHP NAZI-JEW-HATE SHIT

Adam39 trolling Rasmus (founder of php or some such faggotry)

http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/06/07/28/0552240.shtml http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=192445&cid=15797829 http://lerdorf.com/rl.jpg - Picture of Rasmus Lerdorf

• Now talking in #php.pecl
• Topic is 'babylonians of the world uníte!'
• Set by andrei!~andrei@borndress-lm.corp.yahoo.com on Thu Aug 03 13:27:07
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<adam39> hi my name is adam, i am a writer for the Canadian Jewish News (a subdivision of the CJC www.cjc.ca) <adam39> anyone would like to comment on the Jani Taskinen 'incident' <adam39> ? <adam39> i am writing an article on the subject <adam39> and i would like to hear the 'other side' of the story <adam39> tried contacting mr Taskinen but i was not able to reach him and he didnt answered my email, yet <andrei> adam39, no comment <adam39> PHP official statement is 'no comment' ? <andrei> you can treat as official as you want. i'm just saying, no comment. <adam39> ok good <adam39> i will name you as the source of the 'no comment' ok ? <adam39> hello ? <andrei> sure, as long as you realize that we don't have an official spokesperson <andrei> i wouldn't want to give an impression that i speak for the group <adam39> i dont really want official spokeperson <andrei> fair enough <andrei> then you have my answer :) <adam39> just want to get some input from others php dev <andrei> good luck <andrei> i'm out <adam39> bye bye

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<adam39> anyone else would like to comment ? <adam39> article should be out tommorow morning <adam39> will be published in about 3 canadian national newspapers <adam39> as well as a few CJN websites

• arjenAU has no idea what this is about

<adam39> what is the general feeling about the situation in the middle east ? <adam39> do you guys believe that israel have gone 'too far' ?

• arjenAU ponders relevance

<arjenAU> (to PHP) <adam39> well one of the core php-dev expressed virulent anti-semitic behavior on a public forum <adam39> this is where the relevance is <philip__> this is not a public forum <adam39> comments were made public on slashdot this morning <adam39> http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=192445&threshold=-1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&pid=0 <adam39> talking about nuking 'the jews' <adam39> and expressing support for terrorist <arjenAU> if it was here, then it's not a public forum. this is a private, invite only irc channel. and everyone speaks for themselves. it would be appropriate to ask the originator of any comments directly, and not cast the net any wider. <adam39> also talking about killing israel official <adam39> i already contacter the Taskinen as i said <adam39> i would just like to know how others php-dev feel about that <adam39> and if they also have similar sentiments toward jews in general <arjenAU> I appreciate your asking, however that's a bit of a trick question ;-) <adam39> how come <philip__> this is being blown out of proportion <adam39> explain philip__ <arjenAU> let me state this. I am not a PHP dev, I am merely an invited guest here. I am also jewish. I do know many of the people here personally, including jani. I respect them all for their great work for the PHP project. What they do privately is their own business. Personally, I do not agree with either the Israeli actions or those of others in the region; it's a bloody mess. <adam39> noted <adam39> thanks for your input <arjenAU> and no you may not quote me in the context of this incident. <arjenAU> I feel that that would be unnecesarily incendiary. <arjenAU> there is no sensible discussion possible either way. it just polarises more, which is actually the fundamental problem. your article will not help. <adam39> well since you have not identified yourself <adam39> i could actually quote that <g0pz> quit the politics man, this is the internet ... <g0pz> where anyone can say anything and anywhere <arjenAU> adam39: indeed. I know the rules. you must also realise that if you move around Internet, you have to play by its rules and understand how it works. otherwise things look really funny. <adam39> well its getting political when someone make statement about 'nuking jews' <arjenAU> considering your readers will NOT be aware of those rules, this becomes particularly important <philip__> adam39: it was said in private, you don't know what he meant by it <adam39> my goal is not to shed more dark light on the php project... this already dark enough <arjenAU> adam39: would the same apply if anyone said anything about nuking anything else? <jome> dark enough? <adam39> well i really fail to see different meaning of 'nuking the jews'

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<arjenAU> adam39: that's not what I asked. <adam39> i am speaking about mr Taskinen comments jome <philip__> private comments <arjenAU> sure. and I'm asking if the issue would be differnet if anyone else said something about others. <adam39> arjenAU are you trying to tell me that you feel there is double standard with israel in regard to the media ? <arjenAU> adam39: no. I usually mean exactly what I say, so no need to search for inference. <adam39> noted <arjenAU> and please note again, just for perspective, that I am jewish. however, I don't feel attacked every time someone says something. <philip__> i like this note: http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=192445&cid=15800804 <arjenAU> I get upset when nasty things happen around the world, involving any human. <adam39> well you know (and understand why i am sure) that the jewish population (in general) is particulary sensitive to comments about extermination and genocide of is people <arjenAU> my family and I are well aware of history. but it would be wrong to jump on individual issues, as it distracts from the bigger picture. every human is important and equal in this respect. <adam39> the organisation i am working for (the CJC) is directly concerned when comments like this are being made <arjenAU> in context, anyone attacking anyone is of concern. if any action or statement has the word "jew" in it, that doe snot make it any more or less important. <adam39> and since we have members in the corporate world that provide direct funding to various php project <adam39> it is my duty to make information know to the public in general <arjenAU> and so we polarise further rather than adressing the issue. <arjenAU> have a nice day. <adam39> thanks for your comments arjenAU <adam39> i appreciate <adam39> i really do <philip__> PHP is made up of individuals each of whom have their own opinions with their own circumstances... taking anything from a private irc log, and out of context, is poor judgement <arjenAU> yea. <adam39> understand philip__, but so far all i got was negative comments toward israel from all php 'official' that i contacted <arjenAU> makes for juicy news though. <adam39> wich is really strange considering the fact that about the 1/2 of them are jewish ... <adam39> it seem to be a pattern <arjenAU> adam39: likewise, you will find most sensible americans not liking bush. would that be a surprise? <adam39> arjenAU, at the time it was, and as you know the media have covered the issue in deep <arjenAU> in that context, one must distinguish a nation's politics from its people, and also a group of people from a particular nation. <adam39> but a group of people is considered of individual <adam39> and if 100% of those people harbor anti-semitic views <arjenAU> if I dislike israeli politics or a particular aspect on it, this has no bearing on my feelings for individual israelis, or jews in general. <adam39> what can be said about the group ? <adam39> its like saying the nazi were ok, just a couple of them were bad <arjenAU> adam39: are you saying that saying somehting negative about israel equates to anti-semitic views? <adam39> anyway i dont really have time to discuss this <arjenAU> please do answer this <adam39> not against israel, against jews <arjenAU> you just said some ppl said smth about israel. not jews in general. <adam39> 2 other core php-dev said and i quote 'i agree with him' about the 'nuke israel' comments <arjenAU> so I don't see where you get your conclusion on antisimitism. <adam39> wishing to nuke 'the jews' = antisemitism <arjenAU> israel != jews <arjenAU> israel is a nation state, a political concept. <arjenAU> if one says "nuke DC", then they refer to the concept, not the people. <arjenAU> it would be very uneducated to infer anything else. but again, I'll grant you it makes for juicy news. <adam39> so are you saying that the comments made by mr Taskinen were not anti-semie ? <adam39> anti-semite pardon me <arjenAU> I don't know, I haven't read them. I was merely questioning your inferring other's comments in the context you were aiming for. <adam39> as a jew, do you consider it normal when someone say he want to 'nuke israel' <adam39> and also when someone say 'Fuck you jews.' it is anti-semitic by all standard <arjenAU> as a human, I might have an opinion on either. yes. being a jew does not make a difference there. <philip__> go to war, see friends killed, and let's hear what comes from your mouth in this heat of the moment <adam39> so far i what i see is that the php team in general, refuse to condone mr Taskinen comments and some are agreeing with him <adam39> and this is troubling in my humble opinion <arjenAU> the prob with you asking me this is that any answer is polarising for your story. so I will not comment in that way <jome> heh, godwins law! <adam39> philip__, being raised in israel, do you really believe that i didnt see what war is like ? <adam39> trust me, i did <adam39> anyway guys, thanks alot for your input

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<philip__> i just sense the article you're going to write will be inaccurate and cause even more problems for our world, not solve any

• Cap`nPECL sets mode: +o Chocula

<jome> adam39: let's for the moment assume that you had a good friend of yours killed by the country x populated by the group y, would you then - upset and possibly drunk - in a private forum say that you wanted to nuke the country x and the group y? <adam39> philipp__ article dont solve any problems <arjenAU> what a negative view of journalism and its influence. <arjenAU> one would hope for higher aspirations. <adam39> and i will only state fact <jome> adam39: will you answer my question? <adam39> the fact i have so far are the following: anti-semitic comments being made, associate refusing to condone, some denying, some agreeing with them <adam39> also a fact is that there is many jewish person in the php-team <adam39> wich is rather troubling <adam39> jome: i dont see the point of your question <jome> adam39: it's a very important one <adam39> for who ? <jome> for you. <adam39> i would never wish genocide to any group <jome> adam39: the follow-up question would be: do you think it's fair to write an article about whatever someone said you allegedly said (preferably taken out of context) blowing it up in newspapers?

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<jome> adam39: i'm merely asking you if it is possible that you could've said something like that in the heat of the moment.

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<adam39> jome , also remember that mr Taskinen is UN, who already served in Lebanon <adam39> jome, first i dont drink, so i could not have been drunk <jome> adam39: well, let's say you were. <adam39> second, as i said no, even in the worst moment i would never wish genocide to any group of people <philip__> a nuke is a weapon, not genocide <adam39> only a troubled individual would do that <jome> adam39: you don't see my point at all, do you? <adam39> why dont you just state your point <adam39> instead of trying to do methaphor <arjenAU> adam39: you appear to have an incorrect definition of "condone" <arjenAU> adam39: opposite to its actual meaning. feel free to look it up at dictionary.com <adam39> here is what on of the main php-dev told me <arjenAU> "refusing to condone" is a very odd thing to say <adam39> "If killing innocent civilians in Gaza and Lebanon is legitimate for Israel, then killing innocent jews is legitimate for everyone else." <adam39> do you agree with that comment ? <Rasmus> which php-dev are you talking about? <jome> adam39: my point is that perhaps someone might say something they don't really mean because of say stress, or if they're being upset. <Rasmus> nobody in the core development group has made any comments relating to this as far as I know <arjenAU> killing anyone is not good. regardless of cultural/regligious heritage, innocence (what's that anyway), or whatever. <adam39> a well know one, he refused me the right to directly quote him <Rasmus> Well, I know all of them, and I'd be extremely surprised if anybody would say anything like that <adam39> i would be interested knowing your position on this mr Lerdorf <adam39> any official comment <Rasmus> I have absolutely no position on any of this. We don't take political positions. <adam39> can i call you tommorow morning for interview ? <Rasmus> Nope <adam39> so you are refusing to comment on the issue, is that correct ? <Rasmus> We develop software <Rasmus> Sure <adam39> are you also saying that you were not aware of widespread anti-semitic sentiment in the php team

• jome giggles

<Rasmus> You have got to be kidding. <jome> 'anti-semitic sentiment in the php team' <Rasmus> You are basing all this from a single person. We have 1100 people working on PHP <adam39> more than half of the dev i contacted yes <Rasmus> You contacted half of the core php group? <adam39> and its not just one, i have been sending mail all day <adam39> nah i did not contact the whole team, but a couple dozens i would say <adam39> a good baseline in my hunble opinion <Rasmus> Well, you are completely offbase. <Rasmus> heck, a good number of them are Jewish <adam39> this is what i find the most troubling yes <Rasmus> anti-semitic Jews really should trouble you and make you question your methods. <adam39> i will quote this in my article <adam39> good point <adam39> what are your personal feelings about the situation in the middle east ?

• arjenAU sees another twist

<adam39> and how did you feel when you heard about Taskinen comments regarding jews ? <Rasmus> So, once again, this is all about 1 person out of 1100 <Rasmus> Please make sure you make that clear as well. <adam39> no, but since you are the founder i would like your personal opinion on this <Rasmus> I think it was an unfortunate emotional comment from someone deeply affected by the situation personally. <adam39> article is going to be published in 3 major canadian newspapers as well as a few CJN affiliated websites, believe me i want it to be clear <Rasmus> And it has absolutely nothing to do with the PHP project. <Rasmus> Trying to connect the two is absurd. <adam39> i really appreciate your comments <adam39> i really do <Rasmus> Well, I don't really appreciate your methods. Can I have your name, affiliation and contact info for your boss please? <adam39> but you might be interested to know that (from what i can see) a large part of php-dev team harbor anti-semitic views <adam39> of course Rasmus <adam39> want to talk by phone ? <Rasmus> Nope. Just want to pass it on to the lawyers. <Rasmus> And give them the heads up <adam39> jewish layers ? <adam39> hehehe <Rasmus> And no, I don't give you permission to quote me in any way. <adam39> well since you are a public figure <adam39> i dont need your permission actually <Rasmus> in a private and completely inappropriate forum for this stuff. <adam39> i offered you to talk by phone Lerdorf <jome> adam39: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalistic_integrity <Rasmus> Any interview requests has to go through PR first <adam39> if you want contact info, go to the CJC website everything is there <arjenAU> adam39: I think it would be appropriate for you to give your full contact details including that of your editor, here. not refer to a general site thing. would be incomplete. <adam39> e <adam39> everything is on the site for your information <Rasmus> but who are you? <adam39> i will try to contact you tommorow morning to discuss it <Rasmus> There is no Adam listed <adam39> my name is ADAM GRACHNIK <Rasmus> not listed on the Staff page <adam39> i am external contributor <adam39> ask them, i am well know over here <adam39> also work for 'le devoir' 'journal de montreal' 'ottawa tribute' amongs others <adam39> contact the CJN directly if you have any comments <adam39> http://www.cjnews.com/ <adam39> i will personally contact you tommorow morning <Rasmus> There is no Adam listed <adam39> my name is ADAM GRACHNIK <Rasmus> not listed on the Staff page <adam39> i am external contributor <adam39> ask them, i am well know over here <adam39> also work for 'le devoir' 'journal de montreal' 'ottawa tribute' amongs others <adam39> contact the CJN directly if you have any comments <adam39> http://www.cjnews.com/ <adam39> i will personally contact you tommorow morning <adam39> thanks for the help <adam39> i really appreciate your comments

[edit] Islam

(please don't vandalise pages and please don't fly an airplane into me) - LOL Tfo 18:01, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

• IRC server is returning ping now FYI Tfo 19:11, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Um, Stuff, right, yearh?

[edit] ILU

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[edit] op

You are now an op. Thank you for being a contributer. Keep up the great work. I love you. --Ghettofinger 04:29, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fark

LUV--yirimyah ♠ ^æ 04:46, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Articles on banned/vandals

Oops, lol. Well, now I know. Also, that rule isn't in help, and can I have a link to unbanning IP plz? Leam 22:21, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

• What? --Suckit (Talk→) 22:22, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Didn't you IP ban me for editing articles on vandals? I'm almost certain I saw your name in the page returned. Leam 22:24, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
    • OIC. I blocked you for the lulz. It was only a 5-minute ban and it's over now (as evidenced by your ability to edit things other than your User pages). The "making articles about unfunny vandals = bad" rule is just so we don't give idiots attention and thus inflate their sense of unwarranted self-importance. --Suckit (Talk→) 22:27, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
      • Well I did laugh about it. Leam 22:39, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] YOu know...

This was on the Needed page for a while, I think someone wanted it up. Not sure though. Miltopia 05:04, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

• It was an uncategorized deadend page. If we do need one it needs to be good, not {{crap}}. --Suckit (Talk→) 23:22, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Holy shit!!!!

I love you suckit you were always my favorite. If you wanna irc sumtime irc.encyclopediadramatica.com #ed --Sheneequa • Talk 19:31, 26 September 2007 (CDT)

[edit] Double Helix

Thanks for cleaning up after me. --OldDirtyMudkips 19:43, 26 September 2007 (CDT)

[edit] Forums

Sorry, my bad. Go ahead and revert it to your last edit. --Drunkenlazybastard 00:19, 13 February 2008 (CST)